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2nd Rower



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ViewWise wrote:
Also the tyre is very wide which is probably not much help in alot of offroading (im not expert).


From my perspective you sometimes may want a wide tyre, or more specifically more rubber(foot print) in contact with the ground. Which is why you also sometimes reduce the airpressure in the tyres. Obviously this will depend on the exact circumstances and the drivers prerogative from his experience on such surfaces!

ViewWise wrote:
....and obviously any dealers who try and blame issues on them Censored Censored .


My experience is that it isn't the dealer, but Land Rover themsleves that say no.

A dealer will not undertake any warranty work without prior approval from Land Rover, otherwise they may end up not getting paid. In most cases its simple, and a yes is given, particularly for known common issues.

Where the dealer reports modifications such as none oem wheels, or if Land Rover come to inspect the car and find the same, then there is a carte blanche "no" to the warranty claim. The exact phrase I have seen in a completely unrelated scenario, which required a dealer report sending to Land Rover first was:
Land Rover wrote:
No Assistance Available


That's all they say. They won't even bother looking to see if the issue is directly caused by the none oem change you have made.

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quantz



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The EC Certificate of Conformity tells you what tolerance is admitted for a given vehicle wheels (diameter-speed-etc.).
Not only a warranty issue, but also an insurance one. 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

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landy2010



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I got 22" aftermarket alloys on my RR sport and they look great-0 car drives superb- smoother than the 19's it had and i had no problems

speedometer is also correct as i checked it with the sat nav reading and the speed sensor readouts on roads

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drdelrrs



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Its obvious the no-one likes being told what they want to do is wrong but from my experience designing suspensions systems I can tell you that, like it or not wheel size and the tyre damping are critical specifications in tuning the vehicle's dynamics.

Its your car so you can do what you like (unless its leased or on any finance deal) but you can't expect the manufacturer to stand any costs if you ignore their advice / conditions.

You must inform your finance company and insurance company because the car is no longer 'standard', they will inspect the small print very carefully these days and you could easily find yourself out in the cold and personally liable in a legal claim as any Legal cover would also be void and, if you hoped to rely on any legal cover insurance; say within your House insurance, that would be void as well.

You may not like it but that's the way it is.

Feel free to shoot the messenger.

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Boo



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Charlie Crocker wrote:

know alot people rocking 22's


Init bruv!

Cool

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Tboner



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drdelrrs wrote:
wheel size and the tyre damping are critical specifications in tuning the vehicle's dynamics.
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Can you tell us how a 19" supplied by Land Rover and a 20" supplied by the same with slightly diff rolling diameter and massively different tyre wall flex are both adapted into the suspension design of the same vehicle. I know for a fact that the ecu module control unit has exactly the same firmware & software - programme for both sets supplied no changes are made and the same can be said of the Range Rover / Land Rover approved winter wheel and tyre set up.

Out of interest i have had 20" as standard on my last three cars 1 had minor issues , 1 had no issues , and the latest has had one suspension failure after another Sad you name it , it has gone wrong on the suspension side of things. 2014 5.0SC AB

Gone 5.0 SC

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Tim in Scotland



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One other point, Land Rover engineer all their vehicles to be taken off-road and there is a resulting compromise between tyres and wheels. Huge wheels put additional strain on the steering and suspension off-road that the car is not engineered to cope with so they limit the wheel size to one that they consider the best compromise.

TBH if you don't want/need any proper offroad capability then why are you buying a Land Rover and not an Audi Q series or a BMW X series vehicle which are SAVs that have 4WD and minimal off road capablity and are engineered for predominantly on-road use with huge wheels? 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
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gilford



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Tim in Scotland wrote:

TBH if you don't want/need any proper offroad capability then why are you buying a Land Rover and not an Audi Q series or a BMW X series vehicle which are SAVs that have 4WD and minimal off road capablity and are engineered for predominantly on-road use with huge wheels?


Because we want to drive the best and not lose a small fortune in depreciation Rolling with laughter

Seriously, I don't understand all the fuss with 22's, I've got them and you can't tell the difference from the 20's Smile

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Ady 555
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LR will be telling us we can't take them off road next Mr. Green

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Tboner



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Lets be honest here why would you buy a sport for off road use ! you would not buy a defender or an old Disco 3

A sport on standard 20" with Conti's off road Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter 2014 5.0SC AB

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Kensta



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COME ON MAN GET A GRIP! THez nowt wrong with 22's and the landrover warranty is crap anyway theyl look for an excuse to get out of doing any repair no matter what the fault is. Ive put bigger wheels on all my cars all through my life with no problems wots so ever, ive got an overfinch supersport diesel version not a supercharged petrol so u telling me now i have no warranty on my car because theyve fitted 22" super7's frm the factory!? HA BOLLIX!! Rolling with laughter
It drives no different to any other rangey with smaller wheels fitted
Sounds like your just making excuses to justify not putting yor hand in yor pocket and fit some bigger nicer looking wheels!
If you's wana be tight and roll on crappy looking 19" shopping trolley wheels thats fine but dont go dissing the 22's with yor pathetic little theory's!! Laughing

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mse



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Now i dont know on the RRS or the others, but i do know on the Defender and the Freelander there is a setting to specify tyre size - which im aware doesnt impact air suspension as they dont have it - but its worth throwing in that there are options usual to specify wheel size

Incidentally im on the LR/Std side - although im also not big on wheels/tyres i just want them to do a job of work at the most critical times eg at 70 when emergency braking when wet - hence i believe in standard. Mike

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Kensta



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So 22" wheels slow you down then 20" wheels?? Laughing

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flydive



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mse wrote:
Incidentally im on the LR/Std side - although im also not big on wheels/tyres i just want them to do a job of work at the most critical times eg at 70 when emergency braking when wet - hence i believe in standard.


So what is standard? 17", 18, 19 or 20? The RRS can have all of them as per factory '08 RRS TDV8
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Jonny Fresh



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I have heard (James may confirm or deny) that LR are soon to start selling 22" LR wheels?

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