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Norberto



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behind the front brake calipers two steel cubes...

Salve,

quando ho smontato le ruote del '20 dal mio RRS TDV8, per mettere un nuovo inverno ruote, ho avuto un problema, montare le gomme nuove da '19 perché a causa cubi di acciaio situato dietro il pinze anteriori.
Sapete cosa sono?
I montare le ruote nuove e ho tolto loro.
Si prega di darmi una risposta.
Con i migliori saluti.
TKS.

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Confused Ummm - Anyone speak Italian Question

I tried putting the text through Babelfish translator
- but I'm still none the wiser Whistle

Translation below:-

when I have taken apart the wheels of the ' 20 from my RRS TDV8, in order to put a new winter wheels, I have had a problem, to mount new rubbers from ' 19 because to cause steel cubes situated behind the front pliers. Sapete what is? Mounting the new wheels and I have removed they. It is prayed of give an answer to me. With the best salutes.  2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
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Bob.



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The two weights are there to stop brake resonance on the Brembos. They fit inside a standard LR 19" wheel as long at the balance weights are the stick on type.
The picture shows them inside one of my 20" wheels but I'm not going out in the snow to take one of them fitted inside the 19" wheels I currently have fitted but there is no problem with fouling.

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Norberto



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Hi Bob,

Yes, They are.

Sorry, but I don't understand, your explanation because is very techincal ..."to stop brake resonance on the Brembos".
I removed them for to mount the 19'' winter wheels.
It's a mistake?
The two weights, rubbed against inside of the rims.
Ths. in advance, regards.

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Leo



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Norberto wrote:

It's a mistake?


No, problem. You might get some brake noise though.

There are many 19" rims which fit without any modification - including all the LR ones.

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Two steel damper weights are installed on the inboard side of the Brembo calipers to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and
harshness) .
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Norberto



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Yes, I have mounted four "Radius" different rims. (an italian brend).
Bob, write me that two steel damper weights are installed on the inboard side of the Brembo calipers to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness).
In a normal drive, I don't preceive nothing, but when I put down the device (yellow button) for slowing down, only then, I hear a strange noise of brakes.
I heard this strange noise of brakes and so, I put fast the yellow button in off.
I restarted to use the brake pedal and the situation returned normal with the brakes.
The noise that I heard, it was as, if the brakes rub against the iron!
It's normal?
Thanks in advance for your answer, and sorry for my bad english!

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Norberto wrote:
Yes, I have mounted four "Radius" different rims. (an italian brend).
Bob, write me that two steel damper weights are installed on the inboard side of the Brembo calipers to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness).
In a normal drive, I don't preceive nothing, but when I put down the device (yellow button) for slowing down, only then, I hear a strange noise of brakes.
I heard this strange noise of brakes and so, I put fast the yellow button in off.
I restarted to use the brake pedal and the situation returned normal with the brakes.
The noise that I heard, it was as, if the brakes rub against the iron!
It's normal?
Thanks in advance for your answer, and sorry for my bad english!


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Ciao Norberto, il rumore "metallico" del sistema Hill Descent Control / HDC (innescato con il bottone giallo) e' sicuramente non piacevole ma perfettamente normale, generato dall'uso molto aggressivo dell'antilock e marce basse per mantenere il controllo del veicolo e una velocita' bassissima durante discese molto scoscese. Il rumore lo fanno sia i freni normali che i Brembo, i blocchi di metallo anti-risonanza montati dietro alle pinze non fanno alcuna differenza. Per evitare di danneggiare freni e trasmissione, non usare mai il sistema HDC, eccetto in caso di discese ripide e sducciolose dove rischieresti di perdere aderenza usando solo marce basse e freni in modo normale - HDC e' utile soprattutto fuoristrada, cosi ti concentri solo sulla guida e lasci che la macchina freni per te... Non toccare l'accelleratore durante l'uso dell' HDC, altrimenti il sistema si disinnesca automaticamente e quando molli l'accelleratore e l'HDC si innesca di nuovo rischi di picchiare il naso contro il volante! Wink

Per quanto riguarda i blocchi anti-risonanza che hai notato dietro alle pinze Brembo, se non li vuoi togliere puoi girarli al contrario (probabilmente non la loro posizione ideale, ma meglio che niente), se non mi sbaglio svitando un'unica vite che li tiene fermi con una chiave esagonale. Sono li' per un motivo - proteggono le pinze e il sistema dei freni da eccessive vibrazioni e risonanze acustiche, che alla lunga possono essere dannose per le varie parti causando usura prematura. La Sport ha altri "pesi" simili sul retro della vettura, appesi vicino ai tubi di scappamento subito dietro al paraurti posteriore.

Se vuoi continuare la conversazione, possiamo trasferirci alla sezione per gli "Italiani": http://rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic5466.html . Benvenuto! 

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Norberto



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Tkanks, Umberto!
Now I understand all, thery well.
Regards.

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Norberto



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Sorry Tim, I don't understand your msg.

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Norberto wrote:
Yes, I have mounted four "Radius" different rims. (an italian brend).
Bob, write me that two steel damper weights are installed on the inboard side of the Brembo calipers to reduce NVH (noise, vibration and harshness).
In a normal drive, I don't preceive nothing, but when I put down the device (yellow button) for slowing down, only then, I hear a strange noise of brakes.
I heard this strange noise of brakes and so, I put fast the yellow button in off.
I restarted to use the brake pedal and the situation returned normal with the brakes.
The noise that I heard, it was as, if the brakes rub against the iron!
It's normal?
Thanks in advance for your answer, and sorry for my bad english!


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