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Do LandRover owners have an inferiority complex? - do they really think BMW, AUDI, VW SUV/4x4 owners actually think their cars are better offroad than the LR products - ok, some idiots will think it, however the vast majority wouldn't even try to compare their wannabee offroaders with a Landrover products

Wading depth of the Touareg is 500mm and ground clearance of 300mm - does this matter - NO - it wont be going through deep rivers or further offroad than the lane down to my house - just like all the RRS HST's in the UK it will live peacefully on the road

LandRover have a superb range of motors that are supremely capable offroad and have a dedicated customer base - I cant see anything from AUDI, VW, BMW, Merc, Lexus etc etc ever competing with LR in the offroad stakes.

Now, Toyota and Jeep on the other hand

In the same market as the RRS (and so I don't mean Jeep or Toyota), it's my humble opinion that the only decent offroad competition outside of the rest of the LR stable comes from the Cayenne. It has all the similar systems to the RRS, air suspension etc and as far as I'm aware only technically loses out on suspension travel.

But K is right - who cares? It's great that LR make brilliant offroad vehicles but out of all the RRSes that have been sold, how many actually are used for any offroading? I've always been a bit perplexed as to why the "ah, but is it any good offroad?" comment has to come to the surface....  

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Spot on Shmoogle

ST = you will find the MMI superb............ once you get to grips with it. Has it got the ipod audi interface ? This really is neat

The 3.0tdi I had for a while was simply the wrong colour - esp. the interior [ beige ] ....

The 4.2tdi is a great combination in the Q7... I would contemplate one tomorrow - fully loaded & with the option of 2 comfort seats in the second row, making it a 6 seater.

Now this is comfort..........

[quote="Kaine"]:just like all the RRS HST's in the UK it will live peacefully on the road

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Er, correction.....not all.........................



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Very nice MDP

You could tell from the large majority of displays at the motorshow that white is the colour everyone is now lusting after. It may take a lot of cleaning to keep sparkly, but that's not much different than black in that respect. 

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you will also find a few Cayenne's & Touareg V10's going off road too

Nice review SuperT, glad you're enjoying the car.
I found it nice to drive also on the way from Bham to the airport, quite quick for its size.. sport/paddeshifter modes are nice, not sure why that car doesn't have adaptive xenons, but still main thing is its got sat nav..

Very long car, felt like the back of the car was miles away compared to the sport in my opinion also, but its a good looking car, looks nice in silver with the tints.. auto boot lid opener is a nice touch seems quite good motor too in that lifter..

Kaine wrote:

you will also find a few Cayenne's & Touareg V10's going off road too

He must be one of those "poor" farmers that we're always being told about  

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Nice CAR, the Q7. A friend of mine has just bought one and is selling his supercharged RRS. Personally I'll stick with my Muddy RRS. Don't know how good the Q7 would be off-road and I have far too much fun off-road with the sport.

The Q7 doesn't have anything like terrain response but the adaptive air suspension does have offroad setting and additional 'lift' setting.

As this S-Line runs on 20's then the tyres will ultimately limit its ability to go anywhere.

Kaine - I agree totally. I own a LR product and love it although i'm sure it's great off road but we don't go that far off road. A Q7/Touareg/ML or whatever would go just as far

MDP - Lovely pics especially the white one with the RS4 style wheels I don't think this model has the iPod interface and as mine went kerputt when I jumped in the pool with it it would be a bit wated on me

Kam - Am enjoying it and it does feel to me a much more 'Fresh and new' product than the RRS.

It has a nice spec and I think it looks great on the 20's, in silver (A very bright silver too!) with the near black privacy.

'Talked it up' to Mrs ST who said she liked it but not enough to buy one next time, not even the V12 TDi

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Kaine wrote:

Do LandRover owners have an inferiority complex?

My complex is neither about superiority or inferiority - its simply what makes me feel good. I am a hopeless Land Rover fan, capable of ignoring all of the downsides and turning a blind eye to all of the competition, in slavish devotion to the Green Oval. What I really like about Land Rover products is where they come from. Not so much geographicaly (but being British is a big part of it) but historically. Land Rover have only made 4 wheel drive, off road vehicles. They developed vehicles that were highly capable in adverse conditions, carrying people and loads to and from places other vehicles simply couldn't. My love of these vehicles started when I learnt to drive in a 109" and used her to lug plant and equipment on and off building sites and road works before taking me and all my clobber to Uni.

Even today, I get great pleasure out of driving my 1993 200tdi Defender (at least as much as driving the TDv8). She has just done 3 weeks service in the Lake District carrying canoes, kayaks, mountain bikes and all associated gear and people all over the hills and dales of Cumbria. And yesterday she was absolutely fantastic at our local village show. The very damp and muddy parking field soon resembled the Somme and almost everyone of the 200 or more vehicles parked in there needed to be towed out. A fleet of tractors and my Defender (on all terrain tyres !) were the only vehicles capable of towing vehicles out. The only vehicles capable of driving themselves out were Landrover, Toyota and Suzuki products (plus to everyones great surprise, a couple of Renault Clio's with a helping shove from some spectators). The German 4x4's struggled and died in the thick, gloopy mud, on there oh so wide, road tyres (thank goodness there were no RRS's there on Conti's !).

My Defender now sits on the driveway, weary, weigted down with mud, but very proud



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Smarticus wrote:

its simply what makes me feel good.

shmoogle wrote:

In the same market as the RRS (and so I don't mean Jeep or Toyota), it's my humble opinion that the only decent offroad competition outside of the rest of the LR stable comes from the Cayenne. It has all the similar systems to the RRS, air suspension etc and as far as I'm aware only technically loses out on suspension travel.

But K is right - who cares? It's great that LR make brilliant offroad vehicles but out of all the RRSes that have been sold, how many actually are used for any offroading? I've always been a bit perplexed as to why the "ah, but is it any good offroad?" comment has to come to the surface....