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Kaine



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Jreg - how do you find the LCD with SD signals? We are still pretty much 95% SD signal in the UK and Plasma is gives a better all round performance for both SD and HD when compared to LCD - I agree the Sony LCD's are very good however fundamentally LCD still underperforms on SD signals imo

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I'm happy enough with the quality of an SD signal on this LCD. Or maybe I should say that I'm really never happy watching SD on any TV anymore, but I can tolerate it as well on this set as any other. The majority of what I watch is HD (sporting events, network shows, HD movies, etc.), and I also have a PS3 that allows me a little 1080p content, so I'm a lot more interested in 720p/1080i/1080p picture than I am with how SD looks on it. However, if you still aren't getting a lot of HD content over there, I can absolutely understand that SD picture quality is still a deciding factor for somebody looking at LCD vs. Plasma.

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Kaine



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my general comments to customers basically echos your comments - LCD will come into its own once you are watching purely 720 to 1080p sources. Another reason for getting LCD is for energy saving as they run at lower power than the equivalent sized Plasma and will only get better when OLED comes to the market.

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We have Philips LCD with standard (non +, non HD) Sky and tbh picture quality is fine.

However, we really don't have anything to compare it to.

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Kaine



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You've highlighted the key issue with any AV system - levels of expectation and comparison is fundamental. I've become very critical of systems over the years and know what I like, however its always a personal preference - I have lots of customers who are delighted with systems that are technical entry level SD systems.

The key point really is every system is 'different' - better or not is upto the individual.

A few years ago I went to a Hi-Fi show (Bristol Live) and listened to £40k Linn, Naim and Meridian systems, however concluded on that day that I prefered the sound from a Onkyo one box system and some floorstanding Acoustic Research speakers - cant remember the exact models now, however the system price was around £1.5k. Any Audiophile would tell you what the Onkyo system lacked, however for my music on that day it was the best. The same logic applies to all AV equipment in my experience.

Like most, when asked by clients what to buy I tend to just tell them what I would buy (or have) - at least I know I'll like it when its installed I wont have to lie about how good the picture Wink

Kaine

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Personal recomendation from a pro (Insert own gags here) always carries alot of weight (And again...) as far as i'm concerned if you're going to lay out a pile of cash on this kind of thing.

I've always had a soft spot for B&O stuff. Is it as good as the price suggests? Runner up - 2009 Best Avatar Award Sad
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Supertrotter wrote:
I've always had a soft spot for B&O stuff. Is it as good as the price suggests?


they look great and they spend money on developing a good picture, however they are seriously over priced in my opinion. We've done two B&O systems in the last two years and both times have been impressed with the results, however could have got the same result with half the money. The just look cool.

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Nearly succumbed when kitting out the villa but was happy with the look and picture of the Philips and we got the LCD with 60Gb (I think) DVD for much less than the B&O TV alone Shocked

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So when will Pioneer make the switch to LCD or have they already done so Question TDV6 - gone
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Pelyma wrote:
Everything under 50" is a Sharp LCD, everything over is a Panasonic Plasma (which I was told are made by Daewoo)


everything? what do you mean?

edit: Are you refering to B&O? wasnt' aware of the Sharp link up


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Kaine



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Josh wrote:
So when will Pioneer make the switch to LCD or have they already done so Question


KuroLCD - however I've not had the chance to have one yet

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Kaine wrote:
Pelyma wrote:
Everything under 50" is a Sharp LCD, everything over is a Panasonic Plasma (which I was told are made by Daewoo)


everything? what do you mean?

edit: Are you refering to B&O? wasnt' aware of the Sharp link up


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Kaine



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really? I dont believe Pioneer use Panasonic Plasma substrate - are you sure?

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