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xior



Member Since: 16 Dec 2007
Location: Melbourne
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Australia 2008 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Stornoway Grey
snow chains

I'm looking at purchasing a RRS supercharged after the new year.

My question is, what is the situation with fitting snow chains to a RRS?

The reason I ask is because I've sent away for a brochure, and according to the info in the brochure "snow chains cannot be fitted" to any of the rims supplied, be it 18, 19 & 20 inch.

This I find strange, since as most Aussies will know snow chains are a compulsory requirement in the Aust Alps during winter - they have to be carried at all times and need to be fitted when requested.

Can anyone shed light on the issue please.

xior

Post #148651 Sun Dec 16 2007 3:47pm
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aljo



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welcome to the site xior

try this http://landrover.niello.com/accessories.ph...ategory=61

or : http://www.flextrax.com/index.php 

Post #148655 Sun Dec 16 2007 5:18pm
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Kuke



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you need snow chains even when the car's a 4x4? that's either one hell of a winter or lazy winter road maintainace crew RRS SC Bonatti Grey

Post #148660 Sun Dec 16 2007 6:37pm
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xior



Member Since: 16 Dec 2007
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Yes Kuke

I would argue that the reason for compulsory chains in Aust is mainly the inexperience & inability of many drivers here when it comes to driving in the snow. Also the governments here are very protective and love regulating.

And while, the mountain roads do get cleared, it is rudimentary - meaning that if the weather/blizzard is very strong it gets the better of them: and, on top of it all, there is only clearing of snow, bot no spraying of grit/sand/salts.

If you are still interested, Kuke, the fitting of chains gets staged progressively, according to the level of snow/ice hazard.
Eg. the lowest level of hazard is - carry chains at all times.
Next is - fitting chains to 2WD.
Then - fitting chains to all vehicles.
Finally, if the road is really bad - road closed to all vehicles.

And here I'm talking about main sealed highways; most of 4x4 tracks that have snow on them get closed for the winter. The only opportunity we have here to go off road on snow is when there are falls down to lower levels.

xior

Post #148696 Mon Dec 17 2007 4:58am
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Working Dog



Member Since: 29 May 2007
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Welcome Xior,

I had the same questions as you see:

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic6900.html

Drew a blank unfortunately. Note my comments about about the LR genuine chains - check about the widths before you buy. The 19' rims the cars here are supplied with wider tires than the UK cars for which these chains are made.

Let me know if you find anything Just a white TDV8 with a few extras

Post #148824 Mon Dec 17 2007 7:37pm
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budda1



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Land Rover part number is LR005737. Fits 18" and 19" to front wheels only.

Post #153615 Wed Jan 30 2008 1:35am
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Josh



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Why not just carry a set until it gets to stage 3 ie all vehicles and then get the hell out of there, thus complying with the law. Whistle

But a set of 19" with winter tyres would be a worthy purchase by the sounds of it for the winter. TDV6 - gone
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Post #153617 Wed Jan 30 2008 7:11am
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trader



Member Since: 14 Jun 2007
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depends how much on mountain you do. most problem is from the ice and not snow. if you do alot of skiing then get snow tyres as I do -from Richard at SNOWTYRES.COM.AU in Camberwell. Also known as Roof Carrier Systems. He has great knowledge on the chains. With snow tyres /4wd you will not need chains.Just carry and old pair(which you know will not fit) just in case you are checked.See Richard

Post #154978 Fri Feb 08 2008 12:21pm
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Working Dog



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Australia 2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 SE Chawton White

Just as a suggestion, depending on which resorts your are skiing is to call National Parks.

Victoria is mandatory to carry chains regardless of vehicle or tyre type. NSW were still figuring out whether they were going to mandate Snow Tyres OR Snow Chains OR Both.

The reasoning behind this was down to the lowest common denominator - the intellectual ability of the guys checking vehicles, and the thinking was that asking them to check for a set of chains regardless of tires was easier than training them to look for the snowflake symbol on the sides of the tyres.

As Trader points out as well it depends on how much on snow stuff you do. For the guys living down here in the mountains a set of snow tyres may be appropriate, however if you are doing the weekend commute from Sydney, I am not sure how long the tyres would last at the higher road temperatures. Snow tyres are also a change in tyre compound that copes better at lower temperatures and are not just a different tread pattern.

I will see if I can get an update from Parks to see what they have planned for this year. Just a white TDV8 with a few extras

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tiny



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Looks like RTA New South Wales will introduce chains for all vehicles inc 4wd from 2010 go to the following website for the details, http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/snowchains/index.html.
Possible alternate to chains may be a sock for the tyre, one brand is autosock, but this is yet to be ratified as an alternate to a chain but people are working on it. these are good for rims tyre suspension conbinations with limited clearance. 2.7 RRS TDV6, java black, Cruise, Sunroof, tow pack, Tasmod Sills, brembos, 20 inch rims, tinted windows, premium ice, adaptive bi xenons.
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ivery819



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Welcome tiny Razz

So you joined up after meeting us all on the weekend. Shocked

All I can say is that you are a sick man Rolling with laughter Thumbs Up

Post #205296 Tue Jan 13 2009 12:20pm
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2nd Rower



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tiny wrote:
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/snowchains/index.html.


The URL is not working?

Post #205383 Tue Jan 13 2009 8:34pm
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Zilch



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tiny wrote:
Looks like RTA New South Wales will introduce chains for all vehicles inc 4wd from 2010 go to the following website for the details, http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/snowchains/index.html.
Possible alternate to chains may be a sock for the tyre, one brand is autosock, but this is yet to be ratified as an alternate to a chain but people are working on it. these are good for rims tyre suspension conbinations with limited clearance.


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tiny



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2nd Rower wrote:
tiny wrote:
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/snowchains/index.html.


The URL is not working?


Try going to www.rta.nsw.gov.au and then go to left hand menu and click on 'Rules and Regulations' and under this header you will find a subject called Snow Chain Dsicussion Paper click on this and it will lead you to discussion papers. 2.7 RRS TDV6, java black, Cruise, Sunroof, tow pack, Tasmod Sills, brembos, 20 inch rims, tinted windows, premium ice, adaptive bi xenons.
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Post #205721 Thu Jan 15 2009 7:27am
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2nd Rower



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www.rta.nsw.gov.au wrote:
to be fitted with winter tyres or to carry and fit snow chains when directed


What classifies a tyre as a winter tyre, particularly to satisfy the Police enbforcing this?

Post #206075 Thu Jan 15 2009 9:41pm
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