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PauloAmore

Member Since: 27 Jan 2007
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Ebay - Damaged Supercharged Sport

How the hell and car this car go unregistered as damaged by insurers?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Range-Rover-Sport-4-...dZViewItem

Only thoughts I have is that the car was uninsured when crashed.....Unlikely I know. 2022 P440e AB

Thu Apr 26 2007 8:21pm

Kaine

Member Since: 27 May 2006
Location: Hills of Shropshire
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Quote:
The car was in excellent condition prior to the accident

Thu Apr 26 2007 8:25pm

Kaine

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Quote:
The engine and front end parts have been saved and run fine. the car may require a new body shell for which Land rover have quoted £1500+vat

Thu Apr 26 2007 8:26pm

rrsjo

Member Since: 28 Nov 2006
Location: North Cambs
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2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

The driver probably died in this wreck and in 3 months time it will end up being sold to some poor soul as a pristine vehicle. The HPI checks etc will not show any different. The new owner will think he bought a bargain at £2000 below what the local dealer was asking for a similiar looking car. Then one day when it goes into the dealers to get one or two things fixed ........... Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

Thu Apr 26 2007 8:34pm

Kaine

Member Since: 27 May 2006
Location: Hills of Shropshire
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the comments on the listing are comical, however your quite right regarding the driver rrsjo

Thu Apr 26 2007 8:41pm

clyde

Member Since: 20 Apr 2007
Location: Bradford
Posts: 9

it wouldnt have been recorded if it wasnt insured in the first place. the dvla recon that 25% of all cars on the road aint insured. and they cant all be bangers

Thu Apr 26 2007 9:26pm

Cliff H

Member Since: 03 Dec 2005
Location: uk
Posts: 3233

Lost it and went into a tree?
Not good
£1500 for a body shell ? Sounds a bit cheap.

Thu Apr 26 2007 10:27pm

simonsi

Member Since: 01 Dec 2006
Location: Leicester
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Cliff H wrote:
Lost it and went into a tree?

Don't think so, there are TWO clear pole-type impact shapes at the A and B pillars, first thought was something more lamp-post shaped but they look like the impact was from the same angle and hence probably at the same time so the spacing is way too close together for lamp-posts. Trees of that diameter (6-8" at an estimate), wouldn't have had the strength necessary to inflict the regular damage impact shape you can see here - I'd say he hit a road-sign, but a big, substantial twin post one that didn't give much (the damage at the base of the pillars doesn't look like it rode up and over after impact, just stopped.

It certainly went off sideways into whatever it was, possibly heading slightly backwards at the time of impact looking at the pillar damage.

Anti-ram-raid pillars anyone???

Looks like there was good side-airbag deployment... Cheers

Simon

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Fri Apr 27 2007 7:05am

DarrenG

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Looking at the steering column or what's left of it that will almost certainly have been a fatal. The damage in that area though does not appear consistent with the sideways impact though?

And as for the 'may require a new body shell' comment! It looks like it'll require new everything! Darren Griffin
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Fri Apr 27 2007 7:58am

shmoogle

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This seller is clearly having a bubble at the original owner's expense.... what the hell is he talking about? "May require a new bodyshell" - "LR have quoted £1500" - I doubt that very much. Almost worth emailing the seller to have a go at him

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Fri Apr 27 2007 8:32am

simonsi

Member Since: 01 Dec 2006
Location: Leicester
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DarrenG wrote:
Looking at the steering column or what's left of it that will almost certainly have been a fatal.

Possibly damaged while removing the occupant, it looks to me it is now folded down around the upper UJ joint in the column but that doesn't mean that it was impact damage - as you say there is no evidence visible of a sideways impact to the column but the damage looks vertical - hence my reasoning it may be non-impact.

Can't see any blood either and there is plenty of survivable space between the seat and dash, very likely foot/lower leg injuries from pedals and the side impact to the footwell though. Cheers

Simon

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Fri Apr 27 2007 9:10am

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This car is being talked about on D3 and one member quotes-

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This is very spooky, an identical vehicle was involved in a fatal RTC on the M5 last autumn in which the female driver was killed. I can't imagine that this is the same vehicle as an insurer would mark it as Cat A but then they are saying that it's not recorded. I'll have a check.

I would imagine that the D3 would have performed better for the following reasons:-
1) A very sizeable steel chassis rail running along the side
2) Higher seating position
3) More survival space

It's interesting to see that RRS sport has never been put forward for crash testing but in the few collisions I have been to where one is involved they haven't performed as well as you might think. Certainly not as well as the D3's.

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Fri Apr 27 2007 11:00am

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Pics do not look good! Glad Me & Missus are wrapped up in a couple of D3s, mind U RRS will be a hellova lot more survivable than most cars.

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Fri Apr 27 2007 11:16am

shmoogle

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I've always thought it odd that there's never been a EuroNCAP rating for the RRS.... I wonder if it's because LR know it won't be very highly rated? The design isn't that old... it shouldn't be too embarrassing. Isn't the FL2 a 5 star car?

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Fri Apr 27 2007 11:56am

rrsjo

Member Since: 28 Nov 2006
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Very Annoyed wrote:
This car is being talked about on D3 and one member quotes-

Quote:
This is very spooky, an identical vehicle was involved in a fatal RTC on the M5 last autumn in which the female driver was killed. I can't imagine that this is the same vehicle as an insurer would mark it as Cat A but then they are saying that it's not recorded. I'll have a check.

I would imagine that the D3 would have performed better for the following reasons:-
1) A very sizeable steel chassis rail running along the side
2) Higher seating position
3) More survival space

It's interesting to see that RRS sport has never been put forward for crash testing but in the few collisions I have been to where one is involved they haven't performed as well as you might think. Certainly not as well as the D3's.

Not nice!

My opinion, and as I always seem to get into trouble for offering my opinion, I repeat, it is only my opinion, I think the D3 owner has no idea what he is talking about.

For one thing he does not seem to be aware that the RRS is built on a D3 shortened chassis. I don't imagine the seats are any lower in the RRS and I can't see that a sloping centre consul is going to restrict the survival place either.

Finally I am under the impression that the RRS HAS been crash tested and has a 4 star rating for the vehicle and 1 star for pedestrian safety. Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

Fri Apr 27 2007 12:05pm

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