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Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
Posts: 17476

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

I think the wheel choices on all the models is awful, but the ablity to have what is basically a new name for Estoril blue on your new 2.0TD4 RRS is nice................ even at a price. One thing though I bet that the prices of SVR Mk1 might hold up well with all the folks here who own one and waited for the 2018MY saying "oh not so sure I like it" now that they have seen it, think I'll hold on to what I have!

Regarding the wheels I would prefer to keep the style I have on my current car and swap them over to a new car than take any of the designs on offer. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Wed Oct 04 2017 4:19pm

JPR

Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: Cleveland
Posts: 289

Quote:
One thing though I bet that the prices of SVR Mk1 might hold up well with all the folks here who own one and waited for the 2018MY saying "oh not so sure I like it" now that they have seen it, think I'll hold on to what I have!
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Exact opposite for me, this facelift is everything it needed. Having just sold my SVR because i knew this was coming (and having a deposit on one since April) was the best thing i did and in the nick of time before a major price drop. The exterior needed revamping because its supposed to have performance pedigree and fake bonnet vents for me was just tacky, the headlights were 4 years out of date being the same ones launched on the RRS2, in 2013 the tech was rubbish and to compete with the Bentayga and Cayenne Turbo S, more BHP was needed which is now the case.

Its like anything new, everyone always hates before appreciates. Beleive me these will still sell well and it will soon be appreciated more much like the new facelifted vogue that is due to keep all designs/styles similar across the range. Current

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Wed Oct 04 2017 5:36pm

SVR575

Member Since: 16 Apr 2008
Location: uk & Europe
Posts: 1827

To be honest, i know they are just small changes really but now the old model seems dated to me so i agree with JPR. SVR 2018 in Santorini Black.

Wed Oct 04 2017 6:05pm

Renaco

Member Since: 28 Jul 2011
Location: Bavaria
Posts: 324

RRSman wrote:
Just watched the In control duo video and the screen does not tilt like the Velar - that is going to be a disaster as with a pan roof the sun glare is immense so getting a tilt is pretty much a must - big design error IMHO if this is the case!!

In general you are right assuming, but the velar dash is like a limousine with a different angle, so once the velar is tilt it has the same angle than the RRS in the fixed position. So no need for...

Wed Oct 04 2017 6:20pm

RRSman

Member Since: 10 Feb 2015
Location: London
Posts: 1439

Will believe that when I see it - The Velar screen is very prone to reflections in whatever angle it is in and gets worse with finger prints...

Wed Oct 04 2017 6:50pm

Gavin Beecham

Member Since: 14 Sep 2007
Location: essex
Posts: 140

TDV8HST wrote:
To be honest, i know they are just small changes really but now the old model seems dated to me so i agree with JPR.

+one.
Looks a lot sharper now. Might even be tempted back into one now. Was following a 2014 today and was thinking it looked a little dated now.......

Wed Oct 04 2017 7:21pm

wilf

Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: on the naughty step
Posts: 939

I configured one to an equivalent spec to my own vehicle. About £5k more than it was last week. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

Wed Oct 04 2017 7:41pm

JAYMY17

Member Since: 10 Nov 2016
Location: London
Posts: 38

I like it mainly for the new headlights and grille. Just tried to replicate my 17MY spec and would have cost me an extra £5k, not taking into account what my trade in is worth now. However, well needed refresh and agree that the wheel options are terrible as well as charging for the same paint options that were free only a few months ago...but looks great!

Wed Oct 04 2017 8:18pm

Violetpiano

Member Since: 03 Jun 2014
Location: London
Posts: 561

Renaco wrote:
RRSman wrote:
Just watched the In control duo video and the screen does not tilt like the Velar - that is going to be a disaster as with a pan roof the sun glare is immense so getting a tilt is pretty much a must - big design error IMHO if this is the case!!

In general you are right assuming, but the velar dash is like a limousine with a different angle, so once the velar is tilt it has the same angle than the RRS in the fixed position. So no need for...

Not sure if the screen tilts like the Velar but this is from the Product Brief (page 67)

"30°range of motion from its stowed position to fully deployed (includes anti-trap feature)."

Jas Current RRS: MY18 SVR
Previous RRS: MY15 RRS 5.0L Autobiography

Wed Oct 04 2017 8:29pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
Posts: 17476

I've specced up both an SDv6 HSEDynamic and an Si4 PHEV HSEDynamic - the SDv6 is cheaper but price doesn't include fixed pano roof but you can spec the lovely 22" style 5008 wheels that you cannot have on the PHEV. I can have a few more options on the SDv6 that I can't afford on the Si4 PHEV. I don't want the whistles and bells of the Autobiography. Interestingly the PHEV HSE seems to get a better version of the Meridian audio than the SDv6 version 19 speakers as opposed to 13 for the SDv6 version. I am worried about the tech in the PHEV, but as my other choice would be an IPace I might wait to see what Jaguar has to offer - at least with a PHEV you don't have Range anxiety like a full on EV would have, even if the iPace has a 310 mile charge range. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Wed Oct 04 2017 9:27pm

Leecccmk1

Member Since: 01 Sep 2015
Location: Beds
Posts: 80

Like you Tim I'm thinking avoid the hybrid till next time I change,for now I've ordered another diesel,I need a tow bar & it's not a option on the hybrid it seems,also no brembo brakes.
I like the changes so far but I think the paint prices are just ridiculous & I think somebody has run out of ideas in wheel design team

Thu Oct 05 2017 6:20am

timhum

Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 389

It still has the 380mm brakes, the Brembo option was only a change in colour otherwise they are the same brake.
Tim

Thu Oct 05 2017 8:40am

kmpowell

Member Since: 23 Oct 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 259

Tim in Scotland wrote:
I've specced up both an SDv6 HSEDynamic and an Si4 PHEV HSEDynamic - the SDv6 is cheaper but price doesn't include fixed pano roof but you can spec the lovely 22" style 5008 wheels that you cannot have on the PHEV. I can have a few more options on the SDv6 that I can't afford on the Si4 PHEV. I don't want the whistles and bells of the Autobiography. Interestingly the PHEV HSE seems to get a better version of the Meridian audio than the SDv6 version 19 speakers as opposed to 13 for the SDv6 version. I am worried about the tech in the PHEV, but as my other choice would be an IPace I might wait to see what Jaguar has to offer - at least with a PHEV you don't have Range anxiety like a full on EV would have, even if the iPace has a 310 mile charge range.

I've also noticed the pan roof and Meridian spec bump on the PHEV. Last night I specced up how I would want a RRS PHEV and it comes in circa £84k. My specced 100D Tesla X comes in at £96k after incentives, however the RV on the Tesla is £52k after 4 years (not to mention the low 1.5%APR on the PCP!). My LR dealer says the RV's have not yet been announced for the PHEV, however he expects them to be "strong". It's going to be interesting to see where they set them, as EV residuals are rock solid right now. If the RRS PHEV is competitive I am certainly going to consider one. Hopefully by the time the order books open a few road tests will have appeared and some real world usage figures are released. The 100D X has a stated range of 351 miles, however in the real world it's around 280-300. SOLD - MY16 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic - Fire Engine Red, Fixed contrast pan roof, TV, Dual Screen, 5+2, Privacy, Noble paddles.

Thu Oct 05 2017 8:49am

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 8987

2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

PHEV can't tow, it seems. A little speccing with what I consider to be required options in this type of vehicle and I got to £78k. That's a lot of money for a hugely capable 4x4 that can't tow...strangely it comes with the low range transfer box as standard. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Thu Oct 05 2017 1:49pm

RRSman

Member Since: 10 Feb 2015
Location: London
Posts: 1439

Violetpiano wrote:
Renaco wrote:
RRSman wrote:
Just watched the In control duo video and the screen does not tilt like the Velar - that is going to be a disaster as with a pan roof the sun glare is immense so getting a tilt is pretty much a must - big design error IMHO if this is the case!!

In general you are right assuming, but the velar dash is like a limousine with a different angle, so once the velar is tilt it has the same angle than the RRS in the fixed position. So no need for...

Not sure if the screen tilts like the Velar but this is from the Product Brief (page 67)

"30°range of motion from its stowed position to fully deployed (includes anti-trap feature)."

Jas

AH thanks for that - I would think that means it does tilt - just funny how they made that a big deal on the Velar promos but not on the MY18 RRS promos

Thu Oct 05 2017 2:21pm

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