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Tim in Scotland



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Renaco



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ChunkRRS wrote:
Looks really nice but lets face it, it's not a real range rover is it?


For me, a real RR is not a RRS, or a FFRR, it is a rr classic before air suspension was introduced.

I had 3 of them (kept my MY1980 3door) all where fantastic off-roaders, fantastic onroaders (sporty and comfy) and compact in the city.

All actual RR are to fat and heavy and too long and wide or to small and fancy, like RRE to be (for me) a real RR.

That's why I find the velar interesting. It's sizewise closer to the original RRC and hopefully also good enough performing off-road. Without air suspension, it is simpler and gives a more direct road feeling. it could bring back the clean old concept, in my opinion.

Post #519459 Wed Mar 01 2017 2:15pm
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RRSman



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kmpowell wrote:
ChunkRRS wrote:
Looks really nice but lets face it, it's not a real range rover is it?

It's built on the f-pace chassis, so no it's not a real range rover.


Who care's? A real RR is really only the Full Fat - the sport was not really considered one either but now they win pretty much every SUV battle in the car press (and generally too!). As long as the Velar looks and drives good JLR are on to another winner. People hate the Evoque too but the number's speak for themselves (I have one and think it's fab BTW).

Anyway - reveal tonight - I will post pics tomorrow Thumbs Up

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kmpowell



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RRSman wrote:
Who care's? A real RR is really only the Full Fat - the sport was not really considered one either

It's irrelevant what it's 'considered' to be, the reality is the L494 RRS is built on the FFRR platform, so it has the same off-road ability.

The Velar isn't, it's a softroader, as is the Evoque. SOLD - MY16 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic - Fire Engine Red, Fixed contrast pan roof, TV, Dual Screen, 5+2, Privacy, Noble paddles.

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RRSman



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...and that is what they are marketing it as...the most on-road focused model in the line up...

How many time's have you bene offroad in your RR? Probably not much....So I don't really see the issue....Plus if the Evoque can't go offroad they wouldn't use it on the Land Rover Experience day's - when I was there the Evoque was doing pretty much what the other car's seemed to be doing on the day...and pretty well too!


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insiorc



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I'm looking forward to seeing more on the velar, but at the moment I see it as a car, not an offroader. Probably much like 99% of FFRR/RRS and all the rest...

To me a 'real' Land/Range Rover can tow 3.5t and has 4x4 (fixed or selectable, doesn't matter). When I was in the market for my RRS it surprised me how many people actually thought the Evoque, Discovery Sport etc. had the same capabilities as the FFRR/RRS/Defender etc. I was interested in the Discovery Sport until I realised the low tow capability and as soon as I realised the suspension was springs as standard (as informed by a dealer salesman - he hadn't known of any air sprung ones except as a high priced extra) then it was out - the difference when towing is fantastic with both a 3.5t IW trailer and 1.8t twin axle caravan. I just wish they'd have brought out a new naming line to indicate the less capable LR's.

But the marketing folk know better how to make money so good luck to them.

Dennis 13MY Range Rover Sport Autobiography SDV6 - mine
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RRSman



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Here we go....

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Post #519505 Wed Mar 01 2017 8:12pm
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Canary



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Love those lights already through the canvas, very cool MY18 SCV8 Satin flux silver
Gone:
MY19 SV VELAR AUTOBIOGRAPHY firenze red
MY18 SCV8 Yulong white- perfect 👍
MY16 SDV8 SANTORINI BLACK - perfect 👌
MY64 SCV8 DARK BLUE - nightmare car
MY64 SCV8 FIRENZE RED - loads of annoying issues
MY15 SDV6 FIRENZE RED - perfect 👌
MY12 SDV6 DISCO4 IPANEMA SAND - perfect 👌
MY09 TDV6 SPORT BLUE - lots of issues

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Canary



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Absolutely love the look of that car, I hope like others have said up thread that it drives like a 4x4 and not like a pumped up car? MY18 SCV8 Satin flux silver
Gone:
MY19 SV VELAR AUTOBIOGRAPHY firenze red
MY18 SCV8 Yulong white- perfect 👍
MY16 SDV8 SANTORINI BLACK - perfect 👌
MY64 SCV8 DARK BLUE - nightmare car
MY64 SCV8 FIRENZE RED - loads of annoying issues
MY15 SDV6 FIRENZE RED - perfect 👌
MY12 SDV6 DISCO4 IPANEMA SAND - perfect 👌
MY09 TDV6 SPORT BLUE - lots of issues

Post #519512 Wed Mar 01 2017 8:36pm
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It's pronounced 'Vee lar" Rolling Eyes Visitor from fullfatrr.com
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Autobiography



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It's safe to say that the interior of L405/L494 will be changing very soon. Velar, a cheaper model, is significantly more tech packed!

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