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Landlord



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Copy of letter just emailed to North West Airlines. Promted to write by DOC raising issues with LR. I am also tired of poor service from a number of companies INCLUDING British bloody Gas....

Dear Sir / Madam

I travelled last Sunday on the above flight from Detroit to Amsterdam. I travelled in economy on business. I have in the past travelled first, business and private across the Atlantic with many airlines and private companies.

Without doubt this flight was the worst I have ever experienced as far as customer service is concerned. Your flight attendants were officious, rude, arrogant, sarcastic and down right disgraceful. I would like to believe that this was an unusuall situation however the original outbound flight was not much better. Your inflight food was appalling not only in quality but also in presentation. Your flight attendants virtually threw the trays on to our drop down shelves. When the trolley finally arrived at our seats there was no choice left except for a vegetarian mush. However I do believe there was other food left on other trolleys but your flight attendants could not be bothered to check.

I will definately not fly with NWA again. After flying with SWA last year I did not believe flights could get any worse. You can be proud of the fact that you were even worse than they were.

Well done !!

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I hope you're not holding your breath on getting a reply Laughing Laughing

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Landlord



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You mean

I am glad you two find it funny - I am still Censored off Wink

However just received this auto responce

Northwest/KLM Airlines

This is an automatically generated message to acknowledge the receipt of your email. Please do not reply to this message.

We appreciate your continued patience while we review your concerns. If
you have requested a response to your e-mail, we will be in contact with you within five business days.

Northwest/KLM Airlines
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You obviously haven't flown on Delta yet then DOC! Unfortunately I have to fly them in amd out of Panama every couple of months as my employer gets a HUGE discount flying on airlines linked to KLM so long as I do one leg of a journey on a KLM plane. They paid $19 to fly me from Panama to Glasgow via Atlanta and Schipol in October and $30 to get me from Atlanta to Glasgow in March. KLM is OK but Delta is grim, not much better are Alitalia and Air Frog. The only good thing about flying Delta and the Skyteam partners is that I still get my full KLM miles even on the discounted flight! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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I'm a well vested Platinum flyer with KLM/AirFrance Skyteam also - so I know the routine. I'm flying out Monday on Delta in Business via Atlanta to Minneapolis for the week. My worst experiences are consistently with Air France which (along with French airports) I avoid at all costs. No doubt Doc - Northworst is a crappy airline with crappy planes. Especially on domestic U.S. routes. KLM are sort of middle of the pack for me. Never had a real problem on Delta or Continental but concede that the U.S. cabin crew can be prickly and know sweet F.A. about food and wine.

Up until three weeks ago, my company was owned by an airline, so we all flew on service tickets in C or F class only(subject to being in a jump seat or the cockpit if the flight was oversold) - now it looks like getting used to the back of the cabin again on flights under four hours. But at least I'll now be earning miles when I fly...the only reason I earned miles with KLM was that it was often cheaper to buy a restricted business class ticket than our ID 50% ticket! 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge

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Havank wrote:
I hope you're not holding your breath on getting a reply Laughing Laughing


For what its worth ! At least its a reply...

Dear Mr

Thank you for your email from which I regret to learn of the problems that you experienced whilst travelling with Northwest Airlines.

I have read your account of events and I was disappointed that we did not live up to your expectations. In particular your comments over our staff attitude have certainly not gone unnoticed. We expect all our agents and employees to represent Northwest Airlines to the general public in a positive manner demonstrating courteous co-operation and empathy at all times, regardless of circumstances. Discourtesy such as you reported will not be tolerated in an organisation such as ours, whose basic product is service to our customers and the focus of our training is directed with handling each customer with care and courtesy.

I was further disappointed to read your observations regarding the meal service. Generally speaking the meals on this route are well received, however, we are not complacent and we regularly review our menus taking into account the comments received from our passengers. I have taken the opportunity to forward your comments to the Line Manager concerned for inclusion in the monthly review.

Please be assured that we genuinely regret those occasions when we do not provide a flawless service and we are certainly not complacent when our passenger advises us of their disappointment. We accept that the written word from our passengers is a very powerful tool in highlighting changes and improvements which need to be made and I would like to thank you for taking the time to bring your concerns to our attention.

Once again, please accept our apologies. We look forward to being given the opportunity of restoring your confidence in our airline and trust that your future flights with Northwest Airlines will be to your entire satisfaction.

Yours sincerely

Karen Hazel
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A sincere reply I feel

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A fair reply................. but you just know that if you were to fly with them again & experience the same poor service, you'll get the same "STOCK" letter again Confused

Personally if it happened to me - I would complain bitterly to the steward in charge on the flight & report it accordingly immediately on touchdown.

But then actions speak louder than words. Don't fly with them again ! 
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MDP wrote:
A fair reply................. but you just know that if you were to fly with them again & experience the same poor service, you'll get the same "STOCK" letter again Confused

Personally if it happened to me - I would complain bitterly to the steward in charge on the flight & report it accordingly immediately on touchdown.

But then actions speak louder than words. Don't fly with them again !


Indeed actions do speak louder than words. I'm a big aviation guy and I have flown quite a few airlines. By far I've found Skyteam to be the most obnoxious, horrid and disconcering group of people in an alliance than any other. On the other hand BA Cabin Crew are by far the friendliest whilst their SH C Meals are appauling.
LH C is very good in terms of meals (LH Marketing here Very Happy) however you get either a good or bad crew.
IB is a big NO NO!
LH F is beautiful...I flew to HKG with 1 other person in F with me and it was really quite nice however it does not compare to SQ First.
SQ F really is the dogs b****ks. The seat drowned me it was so big (never drowns my dad though Laughing ).
My dad fly's a lot with the SQ, CX and EK. Usually F or C and so racks up a lot of miles. We've both found that if your a member of the FFP then your words get taken more seriously. If your really quite high up the scale then they usually offer some compensation if you make a rather bad report.
American carriers in general (apologies to Americans) are renown for bad service in terms of quality, customer service and general scope.
Most lack the finesse of an asian carrier whilst they lack the scope of a european and have no comparison to the quality of someone like QR or EK.

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