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rickshaw

Member Since: 03 Jul 2007
Location: West Yorkshire
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Engine Flush - Is it worth it?

Have just booked my RRS in for its 3 Year Annual Service. They have recommended an 'Engine Flush' for an additional £25. Does anyone have any views or knowledge on whether it is of any benefit & worth the extra payment?

Mon Feb 15 2016 11:54am

garrycol

Member Since: 30 Nov 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1067

Only if the coolant does not pass its specific gravity test - (it only needs changing every 10 years). 07MY RRS TDV6
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Mon Feb 15 2016 12:12pm

Col

Member Since: 02 Sep 2012
Location: Hawkes Bay NZ
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2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Santorini Black

I really do hope they are not going to do a Engine Flush with Coolant, the cooling system perhaps.

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Mon Feb 15 2016 12:51pm

garrycol

Member Since: 30 Nov 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1067

I took the OP to be a coolant system flush.

If it is an oil system flush then if the engine has had its oil change at the correct intervals and the correct modern fully synthetic oil has been used then in my opinion it also is not needed. 07MY RRS TDV6
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Mon Feb 15 2016 12:59pm

Paddi

Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 1563

2008 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black

Re: Engine Flush - Is it worth it?

rickshaw wrote:
Have just booked my RRS in for its 3 Year Annual Service. They have recommended an 'Engine Flush' for an additional £25. Does anyone have any views or knowledge on whether it is of any benefit & worth the extra payment?

Engine flushes are just a money making scam for garages to rip off naive customers.

You will not find a qualified mechanical engineer who thinks they are a good idea. The flush products are just a strong detergent - some will remain in the engine after use - detracting from the lubricating properties of the fresh oil. The products are claimed to mobilise and remove oil sludge. If you are that worried about oil sludge then do two oil changes in fairly rapid succession but in a well maintained engine there should only be minimal sludge formation anyway and this will be removed along with the old oil at a scheduled service. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

Mon Feb 15 2016 1:03pm

rickshaw

Member Since: 03 Jul 2007
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 195

garrycol wrote:
I took the OP to be a coolant system flush.

If it is an oil system flush then if the engine has had its oil change at the correct intervals and the correct modern fully synthetic oil has been used then in my opinion it also is not needed.

Yes - just to clarify they are recommending an OIL system flush. Thanks for comments so far - pretty much as expected but wanted to be sure

Mon Feb 15 2016 4:17pm

Andy K

Member Since: 18 Sep 2015
Location: GL
Posts: 4967

2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

I'm used to petrol cars, where you change the oil and it's either golden yellow or clear afterwards.

I changed oil on the RRS diesel and the oil's as black as the oil that came out lol ! Is this normal or do I need a flush?

Mon Feb 15 2016 7:48pm

garrycol

Member Since: 30 Nov 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1067

Its a diesel - they are dirty sooty things - all normal - in normal use just change the oil at the right time with the right spec. Change more often if used in arduous conditions (towing, constant city bumper to bumper traffic).

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Mon Feb 15 2016 11:34pm

Stuart

Member Since: 17 Oct 2013
Location: Manchester
Posts: 581

2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

Re: Engine Flush - Is it worth it?

[quote="Paddi"]

rickshaw wrote:

Engine flushes are just a money making scam for garages to rip off naive customers.

^^ This.

If you really want it, buy a bottle of stuff for under a tenner to pour in your oil, run it for half a day before you put it in the garage.

As others have said, it is normal for oil in diesel engines to go black quickly, and cars that have had oil changes at reasonable intervals wont really need anything extra. Its just an easy few quid for the garage: Bung some stuff in to idle for a while that costs them under a tenner (often free off reps). And charge you £25. Its an easy drink for them to flush an extra 25 sovs out of the dazed and confused who think there is some dark art going on during servicing. Get a 2005-2009 RRS (FAH500210) sat nav/dash mat here - the one that wasn't there when you bought the car.

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Tue Feb 16 2016 12:37am

4X4BYFAR

Member Since: 14 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 57

Andy K wrote:
I'm used to petrol cars, where you change the oil and it's either golden yellow or clear afterwards.

I changed oil on the RRS diesel and the oil's as black as the oil that came out lol ! Is this normal or do I need a flush?

In a diesel the lovely golden oil you pour in will be black within the first 100miles of use. It's not a problem.

Wed Feb 17 2016 5:34pm

4X4BYFAR

Member Since: 14 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 57

Re: Engine Flush - Is it worth it?

rickshaw wrote:
Have just booked my RRS in for its 3 Year Annual Service. They have recommended an 'Engine Flush' for an additional £25. Does anyone have any views or knowledge on whether it is of any benefit & worth the extra payment?

Waste of time and money, an in some older vehicles an engine flush can actually create problems.

Wed Feb 17 2016 5:36pm

RRSTDV8

Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
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2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Re: Engine Flush - Is it worth it?

Stuart wrote:
Its an easy drink for them to flush an extra 25 sovs out of the dazed and confused who think there is some dark art going on during servicing.

That's assuming they ask the customer first. I've seen it on the work sheet after picking the car up from the dealership. Only ever been at main dealers though. Never seen it mentioned at an indie. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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Wed Feb 17 2016 9:48pm

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