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Humbug



Member Since: 01 Aug 2014
Location: East Anglia
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Electronic oil check malfunction

While driving over Xmas (HSE, Dec 2013, amazingly 38k trouble-free miles) a warning came up that the electronic oil level check was not working. Since then the warning has not returned BUT the oil level is showing at MAX – which I know is wrong because after its second service in October it was showing in the middle and no more oil has been added.

Because the oil level system appears to be working the dealer wants nothing to do with it and says that if the oil level drops the low level light will come on. Because there is no dipstick the only way to be certain of the real oil level is to drain the engine and refill so they don't want to do that either.

Am I right to be worried? Should I assume that the low oil level warning will work if the level indicator is not? Should I try and make them replace the warning system or drain the oil?

And, of course, is it madness to make an engine without a dipstick?

Post #484525 Mon Jan 11 2016 4:42pm
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Paulcp



Member Since: 18 Apr 2013
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Does it read the same when checked both cold and hot (after turning off for 15 mins)

Post #484537 Mon Jan 11 2016 7:01pm
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Violetpiano



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Re: Electronic oil check malfunction

And, of course, is it madness to make an engine without a dipstick?[/quote]

Yes it is!! I absolutely love my RRS (probably the best all round car I have ever owned) but not having a dipstick is amongst the few things that can / should be improved on future Model Years.

Jas Current RRS: MY18 SVR
Previous RRS: MY15 RRS 5.0L Autobiography

Post #484538 Mon Jan 11 2016 7:07pm
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Tim in Scotland



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So long as we don't go back to those stupid Citroen ones with the string of beads on them that made them really quite hard to read! I agree about the electronic system, it is a contrary beast and is hard to get it to be consistant too between readings. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Post #484550 Mon Jan 11 2016 8:32pm
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fkarim



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Paulcp wrote:
Does it read the same when checked both cold and hot (after turning off for 15 mins)

^^^ This is important. The oil level can read higher than the past without adding more oil depending on how long the engine has been off for (and of course whether parked on a slope) when the readings were taken.

When I got oil level and temperature sensor fault on my RRS1 it wasn't temporary and stayed there until fixed. Oil level couldn't be checked (showed as 'unavailable' in the conditions where it should have been available) during that time. If your sensors are faulty, replacing them may be quite an involved job because it is the same engine as my previous car and sensor could be equally inaccessible. Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
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Post #484562 Mon Jan 11 2016 9:45pm
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gdaniels



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I have few miles on my Sport, but am unable to check the oil level. Everytime I try,I get an "unavailable " message. I have never had the patience to sit there for ten minutes after I shut down, but get the same results when the engine is cold. Guess i had better check with my Dealer

Post #485331 Wed Jan 20 2016 11:08pm
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URX



Member Since: 09 Feb 2009
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mine failed under warranty..but before finally cr4pping out it showed max all the time..

bit of a fiddle to sort I gather

Post #485340 Thu Jan 21 2016 9:46am
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DrRob



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scrumps



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gdaniels wrote:
I have few miles on my Sport, but am unable to check the oil level. Everytime I try,I get an "unavailable " message. I have never had the patience to sit there for ten minutes after I shut down, but get the same results when the engine is cold. Guess i had better check with my Dealer


Hi,

You don't have to wait 10 mins.

To read the oil level. "Cold" do the following:-

Pop the bonnet ( no need to actually open it)
Switch on the power ( don't touch the brake pedal)
Do the "oil level check" routine.
When it comes up "unavailable", press "cruise resume" twice (I think) - on l494 you don't need to do this.
The oil level should indicate but allow for the lack of expansion I.e. It will read slightly low.
Finally - open & shut the bonnet.

Can't say who told me about this - but you don't think LR Dealers wait 10 mins at every service do you?

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Post #520691 Sun Mar 12 2017 6:28pm
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