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RogerDeFlor



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Use it or lose it (low-range).

Working on the above assumption, ie that it's best to engage low-range and perhaps select one of the programs that locks the diff's, does anyone have little off-road routes that they periodically take, to keep such things working ?
(I don't mean some pay and play site).

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low range can be selected for anywhere. If you use Rock Crawl, it will lock the centre diff up. It's unlikely that you have a locking rear diff, very few were ever specced with it. Thumbs Up

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As a single motor/mechanism controls Low Range and centre diff lock, selecting Low Range occasionally will probably be enough to "exercise" the overall mechanism. LR's service schedule includes selecting Low Range during the service, presumably to keep it freed up. Whether dealers' technicians bother is a different question, of course. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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RogerDeFlor



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OK, thanks chaps. Thumbs Up
If it's just sufficient to engage low-range occasionally then that'll do me. The road to my house does have one or two speed bumps, so maybe I should low-range and rock crawl Whistle

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RRSTDV8



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To add meat to my previous post, the mechanism for High/Low and diff lock is a combination of a solenoid and a motor. The solenoid is used to select between range change function or diff lock function - default is obviously the diff lock position. Actually, the RRS's diff lock is really a torque biasing multi-plate clutch system rather than a Defender style mechanical lock. This is why the default setting for the mechanism is "diff lock" mode so it can work irrespective of high or low range choice.

When in range change mode the motor-turned shaft effects the range change. In diff lock position, the same motor-turned shaft effects the diff locking function. By operating two range changes (high to low and then low back to high) you operate the solenoid and the motor along with the levers/dog rings. The only thing that doesn't get operated is the clutch locking operation itself. In this, the motor causes a ramp to move between two arms that are linked to the clutch. Moving the arms locks the clutch. As mentioned previously, putting Terrain Response in "rock crawl" will usually result in the clutch being locked as you pull away. You must be in low range for rock crawl to activate. Hence occasionally selecting low range and rock crawl should be sufficient to exercise the whole system. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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RogerDeFlor



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Wow, thanks for the explanation Bow down being an engineer myself (admittedly in electronics) I like to understand how thinks work, so I know how to either prevent problems, or diagnose them and fix 'em. Thumbs Up

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sagalout



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Take it out and give it a proper test!

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic40359.html

Not wanting to tempt fate, but I do think things work better when used as intended. My car gets a hard life compared to many and has been totally reliable

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Mine gets used too but has been somewhat less than trouble free... 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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RogerDeFlor



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That's great post, especially considering your Sport is not that old ! Bow down

I use mine mainly for overlanding and trekking ie round the Alps / Scotland, so it's more off road trails, than full-on rock crawl, though I need to spend the rest of this year fixing and servicing things ready for next year, which will hopefully be somewhere like the Pyrenees.
That's why I bought the Sport, rather than a Defender/Disco, as it does involve a fair amount of on road driving too, and having spent some time in my youth in a series vehicle rattling around the Devon countryside, I now appreciate the ability of the Sport to be comfortable both on and off road. Thumbs Up

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sagalout



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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Mine gets used too but has been somewhat less than trouble free...


Ouch - just read your sig! That's quite a shopping list!

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RogerDeFlor wrote:
That's great post, especially considering your Sport is not that old ! Bow down

I use mine mainly for overlanding and trekking ie round the Alps / Scotland, so it's more off road trails, than full-on rock crawl, though I need to spend the rest of this year fixing and servicing things ready for next year, which will hopefully be somewhere like the Pyrenees.
That's why I bought the Sport, rather than a Defender/Disco, as it does involve a fair amount of on road driving too, and having spent some time in my youth in a series vehicle rattling around the Devon countryside, I now appreciate the ability of the Sport to be comfortable both on and off road. Thumbs Up


To be honest I'd prefer a D4 but my wife doesn't like them (despite telling her many times its basically the same car just a bit more practical!) and it's our only car

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RogerDeFlor wrote:
That's why I bought the Sport, rather than a Defender/Disco, as it does involve a fair amount of on road driving too, and having spent some time in my youth in a series vehicle rattling around the Devon countryside, I now appreciate the ability of the Sport to be comfortable both on and off road. Thumbs Up


The D3/4 is not comparable with a Defner; it's very much in the same bracket as the RRS here (it's the same as a TDV6 RRS underneath Whistle ) - as comfortable on road as anything (if not with the engine options of the RRS). Thumbs Up Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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RogerDeFlor



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The D3/4 is not comparable with a Defner; it's very much in the same bracket as the RRS here (it's the same as a TDV6 RRS underneath Whistle ) - as comfortable on road as anything (if not with the engine options of the RRS). Thumbs Up


yeah, I drove a few, but for some reason the Sport felt better on the road. Even my wife could tell that round bends it didn't bring on any of the slight sea sickness that she felt, even in the Full Fat. Maybe the setup is slightly more road biased, or not being as tall, it doesn't lean as much.

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Yes, there will always be slight differences. The RRS does have slightly firmer suspension - which many fit to their D3s. The condition of the suspension components will also have a great bearing on the ride and handling. Being heavy cars, they eat through bushes quickly. Thumbs Up Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
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I went to Gaydon a few weeks ago and one of their experience drivers was saying that most of the drivers considered the D4 to be the best car that Landrover makes. He did say though that on the RR Sport can go around their tarmac test circle 10mph faster than than the D4.

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