And I suspect (hope) that the Dynamic will have better RVs when it comes to sale time compared with an HSE with Offroad pack.

Nah... it'll sell a little easier, a little quicker perhaps and be a little more desirable....


You'll get pennies back for the thousands you put in...imo

Stlll worth it for me though... 2014.5 SDV6 AB Dynamic ... Fuji /Santorini Pan roof and 22's
2013 Porsche Boxster S 3.4
2014 Audi A3 S line Quattro
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RV is obviously one thought that occurred to me but here's what I think. Flame me if you want. When either the demand for the RRS drops off or production catches up with demand, JLR will introduce the SE and S models possibly even with the 2 litre Ingenium engine they are currently developing and obviously these models will be at significantly lower price levels than the current HSE, Dynamic and AB models. In a few years time when all these different models are available on the used market, the higher spec models that we are being forced to buy now will take a hammering in terms of RV so for that reason I think it makes more sense to buy the cheaper HSE model now rather than the Dynamic or the AB. Now I realise that for most people there's more to the buying decision than considerations about RVs but whilst I like buying new cars, I don't like wantonly chucking cash away on depreciation

andman wrote:

Doesn't matter what else you have to satisfy the need for speed...

When your driving the one you're in you want it to drive the best it can.. and enjoy its abilities to the full...

Looks like you've answered your own question then. I'd get the off road pack though. I think the RV of HSE + off road pack compared to vanilla HSE will be more than enough to cover the purchase cost. Lots of people will be considering 2nd hand RRS2 for towing etc.and the low range box will be a selling point. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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Looks like you've answered your own question then. I'd get the off road pack though. I think the RV of HSE + off road pack compared to vanilla HSE will be more than enough to cover the purchase cost. Lots of people will be considering 2nd hand RRS2 for towing etc.and the low range box will be a selling point

mikef wrote:

andman wrote:

Doesn't matter what else you have to satisfy the need for speed...

When your driving the one you're in you want it to drive the best it can.. and enjoy its abilities to the full...

I have sympathy for that view but the fact remains that a Dynamic is not going to see a well driven £15k hot hatch for dust on a windy road so why embarrass yourself by trying? OK a SC model might! In any case, I don't know what other RR drivers find but since I bought my FFRR (my first RR), I have gradually changed my driving style. It took me a few months but I now drive it in a far more relaxed laid back style than I have ever driven any of my previous cars and you know what, I quite like that! It's soothing!
If I ever feel like a blast I have a 911(997) Turbo and a BMW K1600 motorbike to blow the cobwebs away but I like the way that the RR is at completely the opposite end of the spectrum in terms of driving characteristics

mikef wrote:

... I have gradually changed my driving style. It took me a few months but I now drive it in a far more relaxed laid back style than I have ever driven any of my previous cars ...

In fairness... I do belt mine around very fast and dangerous mountain roads and passes regularly and any edge on the

handling you can get is worth having...

The dynamic where I drive is noticeable .. car just feels more planted.... still not a sports car..but one look down a crevasse

makes the 4.5k euros they charge here a bargain...

mostly town driving and an occasional spurt on the lanes .. don't bother.. 2014.5 SDV6 AB Dynamic ... Fuji /Santorini Pan roof and 22's
2013 Porsche Boxster S 3.4
2014 Audi A3 S line Quattro
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Well here's a curve ball that LR have thrown at me. Let's start by naming and shaming. My dealer is Stratstone of Aylesbury. When I ordered my RRS back in January, I agreed a provisional spec with the salesman with a delivery date of September (I wanted a new 64 plate) on the clear understanding that I would firm up the spec just before the build date. A couple of weeks ago, the salesman phoned me and left a message on my mobile saying that the order spec had to be confirmed by 6th August. He then went away on holiday for 2 weeks returning this week. I phoned him today to fix up a test drive in order to decide between a HSE and a Dynamic and he then dropped a bombshell. During his absence, LR had pulled forward the build date and my order has already been placed by Stratstone based on the original spec in his absence. Needless to say I blew my top and the salesman has gone away to 'see whether LR will change the spec'. Apparently there are several customers in my position.
And here's another odd one. The order I signed in January was actually for a TDV6 SE which I thought LR were now not able to supply. I was given the option at the end of June to confirm my order for a SE because LR were honouring all orders taken for SEs before they pulled the model, but I declined telling the salesman verbally that I wanted to go for an HSE. So what the hell have Stratsone ordered? Any idea what my contractual position is if Stratsone try to force me to take the car as they have ordered?

A bad decision by them to place a firm order on a "brought forward" basis when the spec. was clearly not finalised. I don't think that they could insist that you took the vehicle given the circumstances. It's not your problem that the salesman was on holiday. Do you have any documentary support for the conditions which you imposed on your order (i.e. delivery in September and spec. to be agreed).

I should find out exactly what they have ordered as a first step. Could you even get the Dynamic Pack on a TDV6 SE? Regards

Malcolm

unnerving Mike.... wish you the best of luck..

Not got a clue where you stand legally... I hope you don't end up with an SE...

I know it's just rubbing salt in the wound but nothing but nothing should ever be done verbally...

Get on to Pete at customer relations straight away ... Don't know if he can help but it's a starting point...

Write in the strongest possible terms to Stratstone that you will not accept an SE and refer to your conversation with the salesman...

Argue that they had an obligation to contact you and inform you that your build date had been brought forward to enable you to confirm your spec

Just get that email trail started asaap....

I guess the Dynamic part right now is of little significance ...

Good luck....and keep us posted 2014.5 SDV6 AB Dynamic ... Fuji /Santorini Pan roof and 22's
2013 Porsche Boxster S 3.4
2014 Audi A3 S line Quattro
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I'm not sure that the dealer can 'force' the car upon you. You don't officially sign anything until the day you collect your car and pay for it. Even if your car goes into 'build', and you decide to cancel, you should still be able to get your deposit back - unless, of course, the dealership has spent time prepping or adding mudflaps/towbars etc.....

Anyhow, I would suggested that you insist the dealership 'amends' your order with LR. If that's no longer possible then they should immediately order you a new one with the correct spec - for September delivery!

Hi mike,i provisionally ordered a hse back in march,deposit left,with a possible delivery end of september.with a final spec check prior.Lo and behold phone call 2 days ago my car has just been delivered to dealer wtf.same excuse as yourself manager was on holiday dealership not informed salesman did say that land rover are keen to clear back orders ready for 2015 model.the spec is pretty much what i ordered.i just feel that landrover are pushing the agenda to suit themselves

Sounds like LR and their dealers are chancing their arm. Tell them to provide what you specify or you take your money elsewhere. They only get away with bullying if you let them.

It makes me wonder if they are trying to move vehicles that have been cancelled elsewhere. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed