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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey
Check your nuts

When picking up my RRS t'other day from the dealership they told me that they'd changed a couple of wheel nuts - apparently they were corroded.

I've checked the rest of the nuts and found that several others are also corroded. Now, this isn't just surface corrosion, it's corrosion between the stainless steel outer covering and the inner steel part. I can actually jiggle the outer part and in one case it's possible to even rotate the outer cover slightly.

I've ordered a set of nuts and will replace the whole lot. I'm debating whether to bother running with locking nuts or not. I just hope I can get the old nuts off without the outer covers failing totally.

So check your nuts.



I still can't believe that LR would design something like this - sure, the shiny covers look nice but surely integrity is more important than shiny looks in such a situation. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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muddywheels
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This is discussed regularly on Disco Sad

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic111330.html?highlight=nuts

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic108282.html?highlight=nuts

My 10 plate nuts were looking pretty bad after 3 years - I expected better quality on a prestige vehicle - never had problem with swmbo 5 year old FL1 Rolling Eyes Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

For clarity, it's the standard non-locking nuts that are failing on my RRS.

As the locking nuts appear to be prone to failure too, I'm wondering if just having all non-lockers is the way to go. I've ordered a pack of 20 nuts so could replace all of them with new. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #423490 Wed May 07 2014 8:04am
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Bradders



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Had the same problem with mine at the weekend. The chrome covers are now so distorted they don't fit a standard socket anymore. I replaced all the lockers last year and they're fine but looks like a new set of standard nuts would be a good idea too. Group buy anyone ?? FF 4.4 V8 Soooo looking forward to this bad boy
Ex 2006 RRS SC - garbage
Ex 2016 135i M Sport - dream car
Ex 2003 RS6 Avant - piece of cr*p
Ex 2014 320d X Drive, M Sport Touring - ok I guess
Ex 2007 RRS TDV8 - bloody loved it
EX 2007 FL2 XS - not so bad

Post #423509 Wed May 07 2014 11:48am
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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Did you put lockers back on or do you just run non-lockers on all nuts? 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #423521 Wed May 07 2014 1:18pm
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Bradders



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I put the lockers back on. They are only about 6 months old - bought from Duckworths, but I can see the merit of not using them given their propensity to split. FF 4.4 V8 Soooo looking forward to this bad boy
Ex 2006 RRS SC - garbage
Ex 2016 135i M Sport - dream car
Ex 2003 RS6 Avant - piece of cr*p
Ex 2014 320d X Drive, M Sport Touring - ok I guess
Ex 2007 RRS TDV8 - bloody loved it
EX 2007 FL2 XS - not so bad

Post #423522 Wed May 07 2014 1:53pm
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muddywheels
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How do you stand with insurer if removed - I would be worried they class this as modification Confused Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Post #423523 Wed May 07 2014 1:58pm
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SCdavies



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I have a set of wheel nuts going, well minis 4 as i ve kept the locking nuts. £25 p&p.

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SCdavies



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Sorry. minus.

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Beancounter_74



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With the fact that almost everything on an RRS seems to be fair game for your petty thief at the moment, I wouldn't risk not putting locking nuts back on. Whistle Laughing ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
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drdelrrs



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Orkney Grey

Do we believe it could be down to the use of the air /electric powered impact guns workshops seem to use for everything !

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RRSTDV8



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It could be that. Looking at the nuts, the shiny outer coat is just pressed on with the material being pressed around small corners near to the shoulder of the nut to secure it. I guess a combination of water getting in between the nut and coating causing some corrosion plus the use of aggressive power tools could cause the issue.

There is obviously some corrosion going on in there because the nut swells making it difficult to get a socket on to it and then to get the nut out of the socket by hand. I guess power tools might cause the loosening of the coating away from the corroded nut beneath. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #423534 Wed May 07 2014 3:22pm
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RRS Daz



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Do you think the off road work or water crossings have had any impact on the corrosion ?

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RRSTDV8



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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

I suppose it might do but the rears get soaked whenever you drive in the wet anyway from the spray coming from the front tyres. I'd have thought salt from winter roads would be a bigger issue than running them through deep, salt-free water. It's a well known issue on the D3/4 site, it seems, and I'm sure many who are affected don't use their vehicles off road.

I had the wheels off recently and don't remember the nuts being like they are now. It has recently been in for some work and I bet the LR garage use power tools on the wheel nuts. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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muddywheels
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I would put money on power tools used by dealer - they also scratch alloys around nuts Evil or Very Mad Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

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