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mse wrote:
it helps save the planet

No, it might help to protect a certain climatic state of the planet that some humans, currently, think is perfect.

The planet doesn't care what we do - life has survived changes that make AGW look like a fart in a hurricane. Indeed, the climate will change irrespective of what we do and life will carry on regardless.

Governments, however, find it the perfect excuse to tax the crap out of us. It's a scam and too many of the chattering classes have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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Its called evolution.

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Lets not get on to climate change because i think you may have an appreciation of my view exactly opposite to my actual view Laughing

I know loads of farmers who do short hops without the DFP coming on...i wonder if the correct oil is being used, as mentioned that is one key reason why you might get the message.

Apparently how the dpf works means the regen drive is less harmful than the drives to fill it. Mike

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So do farmers use different oil to us? Mine is using whatever they put in at the factory, so i can't see that being the wrong oil. Shocked My dpf light came on at around 6500 miles on the clock of which only about 2500 are motorway miles, id be surprised if farmers do 2500 miles in a year in their 4x4's, they are usually in their tractors.

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in my 11MY i did a month of 5 mile journeys in it every day...no DPF light on. Mike

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- mse perhaps you'll explain to me why a change in engine oil will change to build up of soot in the DPF which is from burnt fuel?

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drdelrrs wrote:
- mse perhaps you'll explain to me why a change in engine oil will change to build up of soot in the DPF which is from burnt fuel?


Read the post above from oldcro he explains it. Thumbs Up he actually mentioned it

It is true (read your manual) - part of the reason for using the correct spec oil is about SAPs and the impact of the DPF.

Its common (because the correct spec isnt commonly available) to use the wrong oil...in fact is the difference between A and B

Incidentally - i assume you know how a DPF works - i though you were mechanically minded Question

Because i appreciate the sarcastic reply ive just made a little more thought through: Ash deposit increases exhaust back pressure, which increase fuel consumption & loss of engine power & deposit shortens the life of a dpf. It comes mainly from engine oil which is why low ash oil must be used! Gone are the day's of one size fit's all & viscosity is not a specification! Mike

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this may also help:
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-07-03.php

and

http://pmmonline.co.uk/technical/how-can-i...pf-failure Mike

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mse wrote:
in my 11MY i did a month of 5 mile journeys in it every day...no DPF light on.


Tbh, i think it would take more than a months worth of 5 mile journeys to bring the light on, doesn't it clean itself out every 2-3000 miles ? I know when mine came on i hadn't been on a long run for quite a while.

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Ref the articles. quoted above ..
"
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-07-03.php

and

http://pmmonline.co.uk/technical/how-can-i...pf-failure "

Unlike the USA in the UK fuel and LR specified oils have complied for years. Unless an RRS owner replaced a recommended fuel or oil for non-synthetic or a cheap product then the engine oil will not alter the DPF's life.

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drdelrrs wrote:
Ref the articles. quoted above ..
"
http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/articles/article-07-03.php

and

http://pmmonline.co.uk/technical/how-can-i...pf-failure "

Unlike the USA in the UK fuel and LR specified oils have complied for years. Unless an RRS owner replaced a recommended fuel or oil for non-synthetic or a cheap product then the engine oil will not alter the DPF's life.


I think you are missing the point - the OIL spec did change in 11 and you struggle to buy it, but you can buy one that is almost identical but the long code has a B at the end - Land Rover put the correct spec in, i hope the dealers do (although i know of one that doesnt) but any other garage or top up...probably doesnt Mike

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If your Range Rover has a DPF fitted your handbook recommends the following engine oil;

SAE-5W-30 with the spec WSS-M2C934-B.

Google the spec for info on different makes and suppliers, or confirm the correct oil will be used before any service is carried out.

The choice is yours.


Last edited by oldcro on Fri Feb 15 2013 6:52pm. Edited 1 time in total

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Double post again. Big Cry

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