I'm amazed you are sticking with LR after this saga, I'd be spending my money elsewhere.

Anyway, better luck with the next one

Nik 2015 Golf R DSG
Gone 2013 Mercedes C220 CDi AMG Sport Plus
Gone 2008 2.7 RRS HSE

When the truth comes out, I think you will understand why I have to do what I'm doing. In reality it appears daft but there is a method in there somewhere  2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Well LR are sending their head poncho from technical along with chief engineer from unknown engine remanufacturer tomorrow (Tuesday) to inspect the car and make a decision as what is wrong and what happens next. As the service department has already said they think its small end rattle.
If the engine if foobarred then that's it. :roll:the car has been back at the dealers three weeks tomorrow and still the dealer doesn't believe I have grounds for a refund of cost of replacement engine as they "will eventually put it right". I ing give up......  2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Have you used a Credit Card or finance for deposit, to buy vehicle or pay for repair - this would be my next line of action

I was offered a discount off a new or used LR if I changed within 12 months of my problems last year but following your story I think I will forget it - I no longer have any confidence in LR or its dealers

I have 18 months warranty left but no idea what I will buy next I have been with JLR that long  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

This could be a contender for me next if L/R don't pull their socks up and start pricing their vehicles competitively. The performance figures alone are good, i have a soft spot for audi's but they usually have an RS in their name.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/q5/63549/audi-sq5

How funny, I saw a TV ad for this and had a quick google the other day
Definitely something I'd consider myself too, keeping £30k in my back pocket over a new RRS......hmmm  ON THE WAY: BMW F21 M140i
MERCEDES GL350 - Metallic Navy Blue w/Grey interior

GOING: BMW F31 335D MSport+ xDrive Touring
GONE: Land Rover Discovery 4 HSE - Stornaway Grey w/Black Interior (wish we'd kept it )
GONE: BMW F10 520D MSport - Carbon Black
GONE:MY12 RRS SDV6 HSE Sumatra/Ivory/Grand Black Privacy glass

The entire "Q" range was on display outside the office a few weeks ago: a Q3, an SQ5 and a Q7. I took some pictures. Not impressed how they all looked the same, like one model just stretched to get to the next. The resemblance helps you put the similarities between the new RRS and the Evoque in perspective. I know they are part of the same Q range but still...

I'm with Ady555 on this I've always had at least on RR on the drive since 1975 ! and am in the same quandary as to what might be a decent replacement.

The Audi range is tempting as they are generally good cars but I do find the Q7 a bit of a lump. I had an X6 for a while - it was a fine car but I was offered more than I paid for it so it went and I bought my first RRS instead of a FFRR. However the second RRS proved a massive amount of trouble to the extent we were using one of our other cars so it had to go.

It seems as if JLR has lost the plot on reliability and with such poor aftercare I've decided to steer clear - the daft thing is that I'd be back behind the wheel of a RRS if there was an iota of indication they'd changed.

Having had and still got a B5 and had B7 RS4, have to say I love them. Never Gelled with B7 V8, was type of car anyone could get in to and drive quickly but it had no soul. B5 is much more a drivers car especially with 535 bhp
I digress however
The bods have been, the gearbox or torque converter are at fault, the engine is allegedly perfect, so we have another round of tests that can only be carried out stone cold so going to take a few mornings to complete them. If this was a patient rather than a car it would resemble a Swiss cheese by now, so the fun and games go on. Needless to say there was f**k all wrong with any of this before it was taken to bits so yet again grease monkey has not completed his task as should.
This is getting boring, so will let them play games then phone bank and put transaction on debit card in question and that might stir some sort of reaction.  2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

Presumably because it's the gearbox the dealer will be charging you rather than them paying if it had required another engine? 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

RRSTDV8 wrote:

Presumably because it's the gearbox the dealer will be charging you rather than them paying if it had required another engine?

Rest assured, not another penny will I spend on this particular pile!
It is well documented that the tech struggled to release the torque converter to separate the gearbox so Should it come to it, I think it reasonably easy to prove his negligence in all of this, add the fact that he left debris in induction system causing turbo failure and any county court judge would have no doubt that this particular issue was caused by bad workmanship.
I, long ago lost my sense of humour over all of this, it is simply a means to an end to get out of the car and get my life back after five years of running up phone fuel and and lost work time chasing dealers, running back and forward. Add the loss of one months road tax and warrantee period of engine while they fanny about trying to decide what's wrong.
I don't think they would ever bother sending me a customer survey, there is no chance what so ever, that I would recommend this particular form of long term torture to anybody  2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

All I can say Simon is this post along with that of muddy wheels has convinced me that this will be my last LR product.

I'm sure all manufacturers have problems with cars its just how you deal with them, I've never had any major problems with any of my LR vehicles lots of niggling ones on electrics but nothing major, its just that daily thought that will it come up with a warning light or limp home mode that are always cleared by turn off & back on or will it be something more serious.

I've reached an age where I just do not need to tolerate a potentially unreliable car or b ks from dealers or manufacturers.

Had a Q5 very good car but very boring interior & drive so went back to charm of the RRS, now the SQ5 might be the solution Paul

L405 Loire Blue
Swift Conqueror 645
Abarth 500c

If it wasn't so sad it would be funny.
Standing outside the dealers, a guy in a brand new Full fat pulled up in a proper . Some bit of trim had fallen off and all he could keep saying was he had wasted 87 grand. Was obviously a young wealthy bloke making a scene, but you can empathize with him and other owners who keep suffering shabby build quality and substandard quality control.
Might sound like sour grapes and I'm sure plenty of people have good cars as LR stay in business which wouldn't be the case if all their cars are lemons.  2x TDV6. SE and HSE. Both returned to sender with issues👀
TDV8 Sport HSE...... Gone. Loved it but it didn't love me!!
Now rolling in MY10 Fullfat TDV8 Vogue. Slammed it to go round corners🙈
Cruising daily #56 mph in a Volvo V8. 😱
Lots of other toys in the cupboard...😜

The problem with people who scream and shout about minor things - such as loose trim - is that they make it bad for those who have proper problems. If you spend your day listening to people with minor problems telling you that you're crap you tend to become thick skinned to the other stuff. Having spent a long time in the public sector I know how that feels.

If you have loose trim you politely talk to the service guys and ask if they can help. Scream and shout and you'll get nowhere - and neither will the next person. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed