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bosun



Member Since: 16 Dec 2011
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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 SE Stornoway Grey
what are my chances ?

Hi All
I have a 2007 07 range rover sport 2.7 se ,uk supplied and owned by me from new with full landrover service history,the car has just turned 60,000 miles.
Yesterday the engine stopped,the car has been recovered to a landrover dealer who says that part of the oil pump casing where the timing belt tensioner attaches has snapped off and the belt has jumped and mashed the valves.
Their fix is a new engine at £9000
Obviously the warranty has expired but this would seem to me to be either a design or build quality fault.
There were no signs of impending failure,oil level was still normal,and no odd noises prior to failure.
Apparently the tensioner is not seized or noisy and the camshafts turn freely (rather too freely actually)
The casing for some reason (a ''fault in the metal'' according to the technician) catastrophically failed and wrecked the engine.
Thoughts and reports of past experiences with landrover customer service appreciated !.

Post #325375 Fri Dec 16 2011 8:03pm
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muddywheels
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I had a problem with a master cylinder failing on my FL1 a few months out of warranty and LR customer services offered 50% contribution towards repair Thumbs Up

The dealer I had dealt with for 10 years did not advise me this - only got this through another dealer when I asked for a second opinion - needless to say I changed dealers and they got the sale for my RRS Very Happy Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Post #325378 Fri Dec 16 2011 9:40pm
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firstinretail



Member Since: 30 Jul 2011
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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 Siberian Silver

Why a new engine ...I am no mechanic, but could it have done that much damage...?

Second opinion is what I would be getting.

Post #325394 Sat Dec 17 2011 8:47am
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bosun



Member Since: 16 Dec 2011
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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 SE Stornoway Grey

They say that if they repair the engine then they will have to warranty it but if they fit a new engine then landrover will warranty it,I guess they don't rate their mechanics (sorry 'master technicians') much.
Fitting an engine is a body off job,don't know if the heads will come off with the body still on ???

Post #325397 Sat Dec 17 2011 9:11am
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bosun



Member Since: 16 Dec 2011
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2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6 SE Stornoway Grey

Either way once its fixed its going,if LR help me out then its a new evoque,if they don't then its a long legal battle and merc or lexus.
Shame really I really like the Sport. Confused

Post #325398 Sat Dec 17 2011 9:14am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Stornoway Grey

Definitely worth asking for a goodwill gesture and also checking your consumer rights regarding the actual failure. It may be out of warranty but if the defect is in the part you may have statuory rights to claim against.

I'd also question whether a whole new engine at £9k was called for - surely there's a repair option to be considered?

Post #325404 Sat Dec 17 2011 10:11am
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rrsboy



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speaking from experience of getting a new sofa after the original broke after FOUR years, and a new TV after the original broke after THREE years i.e. both items waaaaaaaaaay out of warranty but failing way before reasonably expected, I would push like a motherphucker to get this fixed for free? engine pops after 60k and full service - who are they kidding Thumbs Up ============
2010 TDV8 HSE - ooo laa laaaaaaaaa
2007 TDV8 HSE - superb car and very reliable
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2012 - dearly departed, sadly missed.. to return in late 2013 with a new TDV8!

Post #325461 Sat Dec 17 2011 11:29pm
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V8SC



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Bosun, I agree with rrsboy, absolutely no way should you roll over on this.

Good luck. Carl

Post #325462 Sun Dec 18 2011 12:12am
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firstinretail



Member Since: 30 Jul 2011
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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 Siberian Silver

would agree on the whole warranty issue, although cars are probably different as there is no way to prove how its been treated or driven.

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JonWitts



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Also agree with rrsboy with pushing. I got my mountain bike frame replaced after 5 yrs as I could prove it was a manufacturing fault (well some other failures found on internet). A bike might seem trivial but it was £3k's worth !

Jon Jon Witts
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Post #325507 Sun Dec 18 2011 5:02pm
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bosun



Member Since: 16 Dec 2011
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Thanks all,I have contacted an independent engineer with a view to having him inspect the engine and he has already said that he would be very surprised if Landrover didn't sort it for me.
His term was 'latent manufacturing defect'
Consumer direct say that my claim would initially be against the finance co that financed it (although long since paid off) who were.........Landrover financial services! (though they may have been part of Ford then)
It came from Lookers bury St Edmunds who I believe have since closed??
I'll see what transpires tomorrow.

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firstinretail



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United Kingdom 2005 Range Rover Sport 4.4 V8 Siberian Silver

Don't forget, legally it's down to the manufacturer to prove the fault wasn't there from new, or it's assumed it was.

Post #325515 Sun Dec 18 2011 5:35pm
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rrsboy



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don't forget, big business relies on 99% of people rolling over and taking an ass pounding. Stand your ground and you will get the desired result. Thumbs Up ============
2010 TDV8 HSE - ooo laa laaaaaaaaa
2007 TDV8 HSE - superb car and very reliable
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2012 - dearly departed, sadly missed.. to return in late 2013 with a new TDV8!

Post #325565 Mon Dec 19 2011 1:04am
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bosun



Member Since: 16 Dec 2011
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Been offered 50 % contribution by Land Rover Very Happy
Which is a good start............................
Got another option to follow up too now

Post #325767 Tue Dec 20 2011 6:31pm
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rrsboy



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firstinretail wrote:
Don't forget, legally it's down to the manufacturer to prove the fault wasn't there from new, or it's assumed it was.


only in first 6 months ============
2010 TDV8 HSE - ooo laa laaaaaaaaa
2007 TDV8 HSE - superb car and very reliable
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2012 - dearly departed, sadly missed.. to return in late 2013 with a new TDV8!

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