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eazy



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Burst 2 Revere wheels. question (HELP!)

Anyway, me and my brother were driving along the m8 on the motorway and something on the road popped the passenger side both wheels front and back. took the car to land rover in stirling where they quoted 275 a tyre each. Were happily enough to do the work so left the car with them and they got it sorted. We picked it up and 2 days later driving along the motorway and it seems like the actual wheel has came off the alloy and has cracked the alloy in 2 places and caused mass damage to the alloy in a whole. We went to land rover and asked them about it and then they said the wheels are too big for the car thats why it happened. Never had any problems like that before so went to my friends garage and he said the wheel wasnt glued onto the alloy proper.

Now Im thinking to go back to land rover and tell them they shouldve refused the work if they thought the wheel was too big and they should have some sort of garuntee. This one alloy costs 1000 pounds and since its cracked a new alloy will need to be bought!

Any ideas? Land rover dont seem to be willing to pay the price but do you think there is much point going to a lawyer and putting it in the paper etc?

Regards, much needed help

Eammon.

Post #253187 Tue Feb 02 2010 2:42am
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Hardly sounds like LR is even remotely reponsible for this...you've got a bliinged out Rover with poor quality wheels - did you inspect the wheels when you bought the car?

What would you have done if LR hadn't helped you put the new tires on in the first place, sued them for lack of customer service??

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eazy



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PJPR01 wrote:
Hardly sounds like LR is even remotely reponsible for this...you've got a bliinged out Rover with poor quality wheels - did you inspect the wheels when you bought the car?

What would you have done if LR hadn't helped you put the new tires on in the first place, sued them for lack of customer service??

Unbelievable...


Whats so unbelieavable is it so hard to fit a tyre to a alloy properly? If they thought the wheels were too big for the car at the time why carry on with the work they were doing? Quite happy to take 275 a tyre out of our pocket but not happy to be responsible for not putting the tyre on properly. And blaming it on the wheel being too big for the car?

Post #253189 Tue Feb 02 2010 4:47am
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eazy



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PJPR01 wrote:
Hardly sounds like LR is even remotely reponsible for this...you've got a bliinged out Rover with poor quality wheels - did you inspect the wheels when you bought the car?

What would you have done if LR hadn't helped you put the new tires on in the first place, sued them for lack of customer service??

Unbelievable...


Did you even read the post? Poor quality wheels? They were top wheels.

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Oh I read perfectly well...it's very obvious that the root cause of the problem is not LR in this situation and you're looking for someone else to blame for a problem which is no one's else but your own.

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eazy



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PJPR01 wrote:
Oh I read perfectly well...it's very obvious that the root cause of the problem is not LR in this situation and you're looking for someone else to blame for a problem which is no one's else but your own.

Garuntee - is that really how it's spelled these days? Very Happy Very Happy


Seriously, how old are you?

I goto land rover. They quite happily fit 2 new 22" tyres and take our money. 2 Days later the actual tyre comes off the alloy without hitting any kerbs or potholes and go back to land rover and say the wheels are 2 big for the car thats why you've just cracked a £1000 alloy when we've never had any problems within 6 months of the car. Its quite obvious they never fitted the wheel correctly.

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Well...if it's so obvious, then why are you posting it looking for advice, if you've got an open and shut case, go and bring your solicitor with you and get your money back from LR. The story simply doesn't hang together.

There's obviously more to the story here...it's quite obvious, and when you're a bit more grown up, you'll see that...but at this point, obviously there's no getting thru to you. PJPR
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eazy



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PJPR01 wrote:
Well...if it's so obvious, then why are you posting it looking for advice, if you've got an open and shut case, go and bring your solicitor with you and get your money back from LR. The story simply doesn't hang together.

There's obviously more to the story here...it's quite obvious, and when you're a bit more grown up, you'll see that...but at this point, obviously there's no getting thru to you.


There really isnt more to the story. If we hit a pothole or something like we did when the 2 tyres burst we'd just accept it and take the blow. But if it happens out of the blue 2 days after we got 2 brand new yokohama tyres fitted then something is wrong.

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My input for what its worth is..

You asked LR to fit tyres on your vehicle
You have non-standard Alloys
You have non-standard sized alloys ie to big
If the damaged was done at the time of fitting by LR, would it take 2 days to show

Your gripe should be with the previous owner or the Alloy manufacturer not LR, if as you say the alloys are high quality why have they failed?

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What was the cause of the two tyres bursting before going to LR?

Something must have caused this? Was it a nail or something else?

Could it have been loss of air due to a crack etc? And have you checked the second alloy for damage

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Not the first time we've seen the likes of Kahn or Revere end up with cracked wheels. We had a BIG discussion about this last year, all got quite heated. If you think you have an open and shut case then get your solicitor involved, but don't be surprised if you get nowhere that's all I would say. 

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Looking at this way.

Buy a Landrover from Third Party garage, then have it serviced at a Landrover garage, then engine blows up some weeks later. Would you pursue the servicing agent or the supply garage Question

If you bought these from Revere why not take it up with them, or is it you have bought them secondhand and have no comeback on third party. From what you have stated it is a manufacture fault plain and simple.

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ASH555 wrote:
My input for what its worth is..

You asked LR to fit tyres on your vehicle
You have non-standard Alloys
You have non-standard sized alloys ie to big
If the damaged was done at the time of fitting by LR, would it take 2 days to show

Your gripe should be with the previous owner or the Alloy manufacturer not LR, if as you say the alloys are high quality why have they failed?

In the past i thought about adding a nice set of 22" to my RRS's, the car has been designed to take upto 20", my concerns where warranty claims resulting in fitting non standard equipment, so because of these concerns i would only use LR products........


I have to agree entirely with ASH555 on this one...while 22" look awesome they are not recommended and therefore gives LR plenty reason to decline any warranty claim...is it worth the risk???...my advice is certainly to stick with genuine 20" from LR Neutral

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Eazy was your RRS recovered to that dealership with 2 flats? Or did you drive it there with 2 flats? To get from the M8 to that dealer is at least a mile's drive, but from the motorway more like 3 miles and there are 2 roundabouts to negotiate on the way......................... on a non standard oversized alloy with a shredded or no tyre................. you must have done some damage to the rim just getting to Land Rover Stirling if you drove the car there. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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This is what is likely to have happened....

You popped both tyres by hitting something (like you said). This would have probably damaged the rim as well (even land rover oem rims dealing with an impact hard enough to pop both wheels at motorway speeds are likely to get damaged/buckled).

The odds are it was unnoticeable at the time of fitting and after a few days of driving got worse till the alloys cracks became large enough to cause the pressure to come out of the tyres. Making them 'come off' the rim.

Believe me when i say its very difficult to not fit a tyre properly to an alloy on a 22" rim and its very likely to not inflate. Glue (im assuming your referring here to the black 'bead sealer') is not usually involved, especially by main dealers.

Anyway good luck with it and if your being charged £1000 for a revere alloy someone really having a laugh Laughing
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