Bobby

@Another.... so in sport mode it will use 6th without touching the gear selector

Maybe the newer ones have a different version of the gearbox software - certainly sport mode did lock out 6th once upon a time  

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MAW wrote:

Bobby

@Another.... so in sport mode it will use 6th without touching the gear selector

Bobby wrote:

MAW wrote:

Bobby

@Another.... so in sport mode it will use 6th without touching the gear selector

No. If you just leave it in Sport mode, then it will be in Sport mode only and it will not go into sixth.
Once you push the lever up or down (+/-)whilst in sport mode, you're engaged into CommandShift and then you can go into sixth!

Are you sure? I have definitely driven one that has shifted into 6th once cruising on light throttle at high speeds - keep forgetting to try it in mine (but of course I can't try it legally anyway as it only works above 82 mph!

Another SW wrote:

Are you sure? I have definitely driven one that has shifted into 6th once cruising on light throttle at high speeds - keep forgetting to try it in mine (but of course I can't try it legally anyway as it only works above 82 mph!

Nobody is disputing that it will not go into 6th gear! I am sure you've done that - I believe you!
You can do that whilst in normal Auto mode or in CommandShift mode. Yes, you can.
I've done it hundreds of times!!

It just won't go into 6th when you're in Sport mode, that's all!  Malaysia Boleh!
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This is a page from the official LR literature...

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DRIVING MODES
There are a number of different driving modes of operation. Some can be selected by the driver and some are automatically initiated by the TCM during driving:

Normal mode
Sport mode
Manual (CommandShift™) mode
Adaptive Shift Strategy (ASIS)
Hill Descent Control (HDC) mode
Cruise mode
Hill mode
Default (Limp home) mode
Reverse lock-out mode
Cooling strategy
Curve recognition mode
Fast off recognition.



Normal Mode
Normal mode is automatically selected by the TCM on power up. In this mode all automatic and adaptive modes are active. Normal mode uses gear shift and lock-up maps to allow for vehicle operation which offers fuel consumption and emissions or driveability depending on the driving style. If the transmission is operated in sport or manual mode and the selector lever is moved to the 'D' position, normal mode is automatically resumed.


Sport Mode
The sport mode operates in high range only and provides enhanced acceleration and responsiveness. In sport mode the TCM uses shift maps which allow the transmission to downshift more readily, hold gears for longer at higher engine speeds, and limits the transmission to the first five gears (6th gear is not used).

Sport mode is selected by moving the selector lever to the left into the 'M/S' position. When the sport mode is first selected, 'SPORT' is displayed in the message centre for 6 seconds and, if 6th gear is currently engaged, the TCM downshifts to 5th.


Manual (CommandShift™) Mode
Manual mode allows the transmission to operate as a semi-automatic 'CommandShift™' unit. The driver can change up and down the six forward gears with the freedom of a manual transmission.

Shift maps are provided for manual mode to protect the engine at high engine speeds. The TCM will automatically change up to a higher gear ratio to prevent engine overspeed and change down to a lower gear ratio to avoid engine labouring and stalling.

When kickdown is requested the TCM downshifts at least 2 gears.
When the vehicle is stationary, to drive off the driver can select 1st , 2nd or 3rd gear in low and high range. Any other gear selection will be rejected by the TCM.

When driving off, upshifts can be pre-selected by making + selections with the selector lever for the number of upshifts required. The TCM then automatically performs a corresponding number of upshifts when the appropriate shift points are reached. So, for example, when starting off in 1st gear, if three + selections are made in quick succession, the TCM will automatically change up through the box to 4th gear as the vehicle accelerates, without any further selections being made.

In manual mode a low gear can be selected to provide engine braking for descending a slope without HDC or continuous use of the brake pedal. The driver can prepare for the end of the descent by moving the selector lever to D. The TCM will maintain the low gear and only revert to automatic shift control when the throttle is opened and vehicle speed increases.

I hope this will help explain.  Malaysia Boleh!
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Top work Bobby as usual  

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shmoogle wrote:

Top work Bobby as usual

Top work at reading the literature... But I know differently...

and here's the proof:

Try it yourself if you don't believe me - 85 mph and then switch on cruise control, foot off throttle and watch the revs...

Bobby is always right

Kaine wrote:

Bobby is always right

Not this time I'm afraid...

Another SW wrote:

shmoogle wrote:

Top work Bobby as usual

Top work at reading the literature... But I know differently...

and here's the proof:

Try it yourself if you don't believe me - 85 mph and then switch on cruise control, foot off throttle and watch the revs...

Bobby is always right

ASH555 wrote:

Another SW wrote:

shmoogle wrote:

Top work Bobby as usual

Top work at reading the literature... But I know differently...

and here's the proof:

Try it yourself if you don't believe me - 85 mph and then switch on cruise control, foot off throttle and watch the revs...

whats has cruise control got to do with anything? wasn't the thread about sport mode?

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will_wonka wrote:

Has to be a fake picture, Bobby is never wrong

Don't take my word for it guys... go try it for yourselves...

Just out of interest, the official workshop manual also says "5th gear isn't used"... (along with one or two other things that aren't quite technically correct either... )