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Supertrotter



Member Since: 10 Mar 2006
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Might also want your services if we decide to go ahead and build a new villa next year Thumbs Up Runner up - 2009 Best Avatar Award Sad
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Runner Up - 2008’s Funniest Incident Sad


06 RRS TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony, PTI, Running Boards, Privacy, S/C Grille/Vents, Stormers, Tasmods - GONE - Surprised(

Post #210914 Wed Feb 11 2009 2:55pm
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XXXAngelXXX



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your welcome Smile 
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Post #210918 Wed Feb 11 2009 3:05pm
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JayMann



Member Since: 19 Jan 2006
Location: Stop acting like snob when you just won the Lotto!
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Kiane how do these lights work? Is it off a switch or remote RRS TDV6 Gone but still around
SL55 AMG
760Li Alpina
BMW 535D M Sport
BMW X6 XDrive35D
BMW 320D Coupe M Sport
And A Van For Rex!

WINNER - 2008's Idler Of The Year
WINNER - 2008's Comedian Of The Year
WINNER - 2008's Funniest Incident


I love boobies i love boobies i love boobies cuz i'm a big kid now! (Come on everybody sing with me you know the words!)

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McBunny



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XXXAngelXXX wrote:
NO - they are not - they are increasing Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil



Big Cry Big Cry Big Cry


And interest rates for housebuilding have recently increased by 0,5% as well... Big Cry RRS TDV6 HSE, 2006, bonatti grey, ebony interior, rear diff, s/c grille and vents, stormers, privacy, tasmods, iphone integration Wink

Post #210934 Wed Feb 11 2009 4:33pm
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XXXAngelXXX



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Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil 
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Post #210936 Wed Feb 11 2009 4:36pm
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McBunny



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If it was a little cheaper I'd build a huuuuugggeee house, then you could have perhaps reason to laugh! Big Cry Whistle
Wink RRS TDV6 HSE, 2006, bonatti grey, ebony interior, rear diff, s/c grille and vents, stormers, privacy, tasmods, iphone integration Wink

Post #210939 Wed Feb 11 2009 4:48pm
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Kaine



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cheers guys.

Jay - In this project I have all the LED's controlled via a Clipsal lighting system - basically a simple light switch to turn them on/off/dimmer etc - colour changing is then controlled via a wall panel or via the TV automation system. However they can be controlled by remote controls also.

We are also playing with some very trick outdoor lights - completely portable RGB lights with built in battery and comms between each unit. Just place 5 out in the garden and then control them all together or make them dance to music. Would go very well in a car showroom Whistle

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JayMann



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Cool all sound's good mate

Want this in the boys room just talking to my guy about changing a few bit's in there

Think it would be best if i could have this working of a IR remote controller?


Outside lighting sound go as well RRS TDV6 Gone but still around
SL55 AMG
760Li Alpina
BMW 535D M Sport
BMW X6 XDrive35D
BMW 320D Coupe M Sport
And A Van For Rex!

WINNER - 2008's Idler Of The Year
WINNER - 2008's Comedian Of The Year
WINNER - 2008's Funniest Incident


I love boobies i love boobies i love boobies cuz i'm a big kid now! (Come on everybody sing with me you know the words!)

Post #210975 Wed Feb 11 2009 7:05pm
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XXXAngelXXX



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i don't sell often houses or flats i am more into managing our own and customers houses and flats - that's why i am laughing Wink Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

and renting flats is our daily job.... that pays the cars bills Wink

ops forgot we refurbish old houses to new specs...... also Wink 
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Post #211059 Thu Feb 12 2009 7:45am
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Zilch



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Kaine looks very Cool I am building my house in Tropical Queensland in the next few months (optimistic at the current snails pace of the architect and prospective builder), and was wondering what the rough rule of thumb was of LED based lighting vs conventional down lighters would be in terms of installation costs and running..

In Queensland on new builds they have a policy of 40% of lighted area's must use energy efficient systems .. so anything that could move it away from fluorescent would be nice to know about.. Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

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Post #211067 Thu Feb 12 2009 8:02am
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Kaine



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Zilch - to be honest, LED lights are not cost effective at all, however from an Energy perspective they are excellent. The key with LED light is to be efficient with the available light, making sure you use reflective surfaces to the maximum and finally being aware the overal effect is quite different to conventional lighting.

One way I explain this is to ask you to look around a room with conventional lighting and make note of all the areas in the room which is lit and more specifically overly lit - this is basically wasted light/energy. With LED's you can basically omit the wasted light and just have the 'useful' light.

This pic below shows some Warm LED's stips sunk into ceiling recesses - it runs at approx 4W/metre and all of the light is directed down. In this corridor the client specifically wanted full length strips of light so compared to T5's we have saved approx 40% energy output (plus extended the lifetime)

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/lh/photo/eFK...directlink

In case of downlighters, it is possible to replace conventional 35W GU10/MR16 with a 5W LED versions in Reception rooms as normally you will have supporting light in there in the form of 5A Lamps etc. However in case of a 'bright room' (i.e. Kitchen) or a room with dark tiles (Ensuites etc) then increase the qty may be a good idea to avoid 'dark spots' however in case of Reception rooms.

In case of pay back periods for LED's, I have completed a full detailed analysis for this current project and its coming out at 11year payback. Another consideration for LED lighting is the option to run them direct on 12V/24C DC supplies - i.e. run them direct from Solar Panels / Wind Turbines etc without using step up transformers and getting losses.

Kaine

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Zilch



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Kaine wrote:


In case of pay back periods for LED's, I have completed a full detailed analysis for this current project and its coming out at 11year payback. Another consideration for LED lighting is the option to run them direct on 12V/24C DC supplies - i.e. run them direct from Solar Panels / Wind Turbines etc without using step up transformers and getting losses.

Kaine


Well i am in it for the long haul, it is going to be the retirement home Laughing and as it is a tropical area with lots of Sun, but prone to Cyclone and other forms of natural disasters, Solar is not really out of the question at the moment.. all worth considering.. Trouble with Solar, it in itself takes about 13 years pay back down here at the moment..

Thanks for the info Kaine.. Perhaps we can do a deal, future timeshare holiday home in Queensland for 2/3 weeks a year with RRS runaround for LED design and installation Whistle Laughing Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

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Post #211110 Thu Feb 12 2009 9:44am
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McBunny



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Kaine wrote:
cheers guys.

Jay - In this project I have all the LED's controlled via a Clipsal lighting system - basically a simple light switch to turn them on/off/dimmer etc - colour changing is then controlled via a wall panel or via the TV automation system. However they can be controlled by remote controls also.

We are also playing with some very trick outdoor lights - completely portable RGB lights with built in battery and comms between each unit. Just place 5 out in the garden and then control them all together or make them dance to music. Would go very well in a car showroom Whistle


Can you also do an installation that lets you control all the lights with one of those flashy touch-screen remotes with no keys at all so that you don't have any switch on the wall, just some of the touch screen panels? Question
I like those.... Cool Bow down RRS TDV6 HSE, 2006, bonatti grey, ebony interior, rear diff, s/c grille and vents, stormers, privacy, tasmods, iphone integration Wink

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McBunny



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XXXAngelXXX wrote:
ops forgot we refurbish old houses to new specs...... also Wink

So, I can buy an old, rubbish big house and then you will refurbish the whole thing until it is perfect? -> Of course, since I am such a nice guy, you will do it for free, right? Thanks! Thumbs Up

I'm off, for the rest of the week I'll have to look for cheap, old houses in the Feuerbacher Heide or nearby.... Mr. Green

Kaines light systems will look good in one of those! Thumbs Up Bow down RRS TDV6 HSE, 2006, bonatti grey, ebony interior, rear diff, s/c grille and vents, stormers, privacy, tasmods, iphone integration Wink

Post #211161 Thu Feb 12 2009 10:23am
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XXXAngelXXX



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*do it for free* Rolling with laughter i can see no credit crunch here LOL Rolling with laughter 
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