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vip-culture.com Member Since: 12 Feb 2006 Location: The OC Posts: 86 |
i could live w/ 20mm lower all the time driving or standing still www.vip-culture.com | 06 RRS HSE | 06 Odyssey Touring
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Mon Feb 13 2006 6:29am |
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noddy and bigears Member Since: 05 Nov 2005 Location: hants Posts: 116 |
COME ON THEN THE SUSPENCE IS KILLING ME OR ARE YOU FULL OF IT |
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Fri Feb 17 2006 9:45pm |
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rrmad Member Since: 29 Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 44 |
Full of what?? We have used different wheel tyre and suspension settings within reasonably controlled environments, using competent drivers capable of constant lap times. On stsndard 20" rims and tyres lowering the suspension by 75mm created little to no advantage over a std setup or indeed -25mm, however when the car was loaded with four people we experienced fouling on hard corners on the rear wheel arch - I am sure you would agree this is the time to stop! The fastest setup was -50mm and 22" rims the vehicle was then extremely competetnt at all loadings. We have developed damper kits for the RR and may have a look at this for the RRS but the car is very well set up for what it is and the ability of the driver normally fails it before a few mm here and there. Want it to look good on the drive leave it in access mode. THe 100mph thing maybe what because of fouling not many people are fully loading the suspension on bends at 100mph so the benefit of a little more areodynamic stability makes some sense. I wonder if a fully loaded standard car thrown round a bend at more than 100 might also foul, I'll give it go! |
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Sat Feb 18 2006 2:35pm |
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Bobby Member Since: 07 Jun 2005 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 3781 |
noddy, when are you going to answer this????? Or maybe you have no ideas Malaysia Boleh! 4.2SC Chawton White, Stormers Tasmod's Sills, Wind Deflectors, LR Sills Clear Side Repeaters, Towbar Larini Sports Exhaust, K&N Air Filter ______________________________ WINNER - 2008 'Tech-Head Of The Year' Award WINNER - 2009 Outstanding Contribution WINNER - 2009 'Tech-Head Of The Year' Award |
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Sat Feb 18 2006 2:42pm |
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noddy and bigears Member Since: 05 Nov 2005 Location: hants Posts: 116 |
well it got an anwser didnt it i wasnt the one who 20 odd days ago said it was STUPID and then just kept quiet i did post and bring the subject up to refresh it i havent claimed to know anything about lowering suspention if your going to shoot someone down in flames like you have tried to do to TC then the best you can do is back your typing up a bit quicker mabe some people might just be driving down a motorway at 70 - 80 mph and not throwing it into hard corners fully loaded they might just like it the same as they like tinted windows clear repeters supercharged grill etc if someone offers a service and someone buys it thats buisness |
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Sat Feb 18 2006 5:53pm |
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rrmad Member Since: 29 Oct 2005 Location: UK Posts: 44 |
N & B not sure if this directed at me or Bobby - by the way I think it is very different not sure how many people have come off the road or even been killed by clear side repeaters or tints whereas people making niave mods to suspension and brakes have. The reason I bit was that TC is considered an expert with a valued view and my frustration was that people would possibly have a go themselves without realising there were consequences, I am sure TC would have come up with the same findings as me before he formally released the mod. Oh and the man driving 70- 80 down the motorway: why bother he isn't really the guy for any type of suspension mod or do you know something I don't: is the car inherently unstable in these conditions - I don't think so. Whilst it is everybodys choice what they buy is it not the benefit of this valuable board that people contribute to at the least express their view but more importantly point out a product/service that is flawed with potential danger. My view was based on experience not theory or whim and it cost nothing - surely this is what this board is about? Wish I had as much spare time as you to reply in a considered manner. Anything you may want to know, why not send me a civil PM I always priorotize those. |
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Sun Feb 19 2006 9:37am |
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noddy and bigears Member Since: 05 Nov 2005 Location: hants Posts: 116 |
We have used different wheel tyre and suspension settings within reasonably controlled environments, using competent drivers capable of constant lap times. On stsndard 20" rims and tyres lowering the suspension by 75mm created little to no advantage over a std setup or indeed -25mm, however when the car was loaded with four people we experienced fouling on hard corners on the rear wheel arch - I am sure you would agree this is the time to stop! The fastest setup was -50mm and 22" rims the vehicle was then extremely competetnt at all loadings. We have developed damper kits for the RR and may have a look at this for the RRS but the car is very well set up for what it is and the ability of the driver normally fails it before a few mm here and there. Want it to look good on the drive leave it in access mode. THe 100mph thing maybe what because of fouling not many people are fully loading the suspension on bends at 100mph so the benefit of a little more areodynamic stability makes some sense. I wonder if a fully loaded standard car thrown round a bend at more than 100 might also foul, I'll give it go![/quote] right my frustrtion is when people totaly rebuff an idea publicly (i.e this forum)then dont seem to want to backup their typing as for having the time to post i will not post a reply on a thread like you have knowing full well it will provoke an interest if i didnt have the time to reply to any questions it generated as for PMing you say it on the forum for everyone to see and decide for theirselves as to the lowering you are stating lap times etc what has lap times got to do with a car lets say it lowers after driving at 70 mph constant for 1 minute for instance a trip down the M4 from what i recall of my many trips down the said motorway there are no hard bends to "throw" it into many people just drive "normal"it sound like you have been thrashing one around a track not driving normaly on normal roads i suspect most people dont car about lap times maybe you would like to enlighten some of us on exactly what it is you do i notice you keep you occupation blank therre are lots of so called experts on here but it seems JE and TC are the only ones who are open about who they are and try to help people out instead of having a "dig" at people and then complaining when people do it back |
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Sun Feb 19 2006 12:55pm |
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Peter Member Since: 28 Feb 2006 Location: Maidenhead Posts: 175 |
ALL input in this forum is valid in my view.
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Thu Apr 27 2006 8:23am |
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Josh Member Since: 24 Dec 2005 Location: Here, there and everywhere Posts: 2054 |
Nicely put Peter. TDV6 - gone
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Thu Apr 27 2006 10:37am |
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XXXAngelXXX Member Since: 03 Mar 2006 Location: Krautland Posts: 10894 |
You just live in the wrong country - your bad L 405 2013 FFRR 5.0 SC -------------------------------------------------------------- WINNER - 2009 �Best Avatar� Award WINNER - 2009 Comedian Of The Year Award |
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Thu Apr 27 2006 10:38am |
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TB Member Since: 19 Feb 2006 Location: Depends who wants to know . . . Posts: 5927 |
I wondered how long it would be before you visited this post Angel
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Thu Apr 27 2006 1:43pm |
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XXXAngelXXX Member Since: 03 Mar 2006 Location: Krautland Posts: 10894 |
but i agree for the lowering even from starting 30 mph
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Thu Apr 27 2006 2:19pm |
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Singletrack Member Since: 07 May 2006 Location: Belgium - Lasne Posts: 330 |
LRtuning - This is a thread you opened in July 2005...and while I think that 75mm is a bit much, it is clearly a sought after option. What is your status on this? Did you give up? Leaving this one to the boys in Germany at Matzker and Arden? 2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE, Java/Ebony/Cherry, Privacy, Sunroof, PTI, Premium Sound, SatNav, Cold Climate, Tow kit, CarStyle coded grill and vents, Tasmods, Stormers, JE Exhaust, Autobiography badge |
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Thu Dec 28 2006 7:10am |
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