I have a new RRS (2006 Sept made) and just got it in 2007 Feb 15, but it comes a engine ignition problem at last week (Only run 1000km). Do any one have the same experience when the RRS starts up in cool condition? The engine comes out a sound "da da da" and the dashboard shows engine flaut? After trying to ignit the engine many times, it could start. According to the dealer in China, they told me that this promblem is came form the computer software and it need upgrade. Unfortunately, it is keeped in the deal's garage for five days and still no answer when I could get it back.

Please help?

Welcome to the forum! Do you own a 2006 Supercharged Sport? There is a TSB in North America for that engine and model year, describing more or less what you are experiencing, see bulletin text below. Perhaps that is what your dealer is talking about, but if it's only a software upload... Why would it take them so long to do it? Don't they have modems in China? You obviously do...

LR North America TSB# LTB00016 issued Dec 20, 2006

Quote:

AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE:
Range Rover Sport (LS) 4.2L Supercharged only VIN: 2006 MY vehicles only
Range Rover (LM) 4.2L Supercharged only VIN: 2006 MY vehicles only

CONDITION SUMMARY:
DIFFICULT STARTING OR POOR IDLE AFTER STARTING SUPERCHARGED ENGINES
Situation: A customer may report a concern that the vehicle is difficult to start if it has been left standing for between 2-5 hours, or that the idle quality is poor for a short period after starting.
A calibration sensitivity issue in the Engine Control Module (ECM) software may be the cause.
Action: Should a customer express concern regarding the above, refer to the Repair Procedure detailed in this bulletin to update the Engine Control Module software.
PARTS:
No parts required for this bulletin. Information purposes only.
TOOLS:
IDS DVD 104 with Patch File 2 (or later) software installed.

 

Thanks for your suggestion and I have informed my dealer. They told me that they have already upgraded the car computer and it did not work. Accordimng to their reply, Land Rover UK already alert this problem a long time ago and they did not find out where is the problem exactly came from. As I know, there is more than 5 cars (all are supercharged model) in the dealer's garage waiting for the solution. They are all having the same engine ignition problem.

begs the question, is your dealer doing the update correctly?

by the way - welcome to the forum

Just what I was thinking.... I take it LR service departments operate in the same way in China as they do in the rest of the world?  

2009 Outstanding Contribution Award - Joint Runner Up
2009 'Tech-Head Of The Year' Award - Runner Up

Like it here? Then Donate to RRSPORT!!

umbertob wrote:

Welcome to the forum! Do you own a 2006 Supercharged Sport? There is a TSB in North America for that engine and model year, describing more or less what you are experiencing, see bulletin text below. Perhaps that is what your dealer is talking about, but if it's only a software upload... Why would it take them so long to do it? Don't they have modems in China? You obviously do...

LR North America TSB# LTB00016 issued Dec 20, 2006

Quote:

AFFECTED VEHICLE RANGE:
Range Rover Sport (LS) 4.2L Supercharged only VIN: 2006 MY vehicles only
Range Rover (LM) 4.2L Supercharged only VIN: 2006 MY vehicles only

CONDITION SUMMARY:
DIFFICULT STARTING OR POOR IDLE AFTER STARTING SUPERCHARGED ENGINES
Situation: A customer may report a concern that the vehicle is difficult to start if it has been left standing for between 2-5 hours, or that the idle quality is poor for a short period after starting.
A calibration sensitivity issue in the Engine Control Module (ECM) software may be the cause.
Action: Should a customer express concern regarding the above, refer to the Repair Procedure detailed in this bulletin to update the Engine Control Module software.
PARTS:
No parts required for this bulletin. Information purposes only.
TOOLS:
IDS DVD 104 with Patch File 2 (or later) software installed.

I don't think so...  

2009 Outstanding Contribution Award - Joint Runner Up
2009 'Tech-Head Of The Year' Award - Runner Up

Like it here? Then Donate to RRSPORT!!

The dealer claim the cheif technican is came from LR UK. But he could not solve the problem.

They flew him all the way to China just for you? What an incredible honor! You should be thankful, go away and just keep cranking up your Sport in the morning till it sputters away.

The stories dealers come up with sometimes... Gotta love it. 

RS=China - have you tried changing to a different brand of petrol.I appreciate that fuel quality in China is variable but it could be that the filling stations you are use is "doctoring" petrol to make bigger profits. I was recently in Ningbo and was very surprised to see 3 Discovery3 HSE's lined up outside a dentist's surgery! Good luck with getting a fix 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Tim in Scotland wrote:

RS=China - have you tried changing to a different brand of petrol.I appreciate that fuel quality in China is variable but it could be that the filling stations you are use is "doctoring" petrol to make bigger profits. I was recently in Ningbo and was very surprised to see 3 Discovery3 HSE's lined up outside a dentist's surgery! Good luck with getting a fix

Oh dear, Tim!

They must be "doctoring" the petrol with sugar!!  Malaysia Boleh!
4.2SC Chawton White, Stormers
Tasmod's Sills, Wind Deflectors, LR Sills
Clear Side Repeaters, Towbar
Larini Sports Exhaust, K&N Air Filter
______________________________
WINNER - 2008 'Tech-Head Of The Year' Award
WINNER - 2009 Outstanding Contribution
WINNER - 2009 'Tech-Head Of The Year' Award

Firstly, the dealer claim the problem may be came from petrol. But I told them have used the best petrol in China (Octane 98#) then they said nothing. Unfortunately, there is only one offical dealer in Southern China and could not try another one.

Then it may be worth putting your query to LR customer services in the UK.

You can email them at lradvice@landrover.com. At least with email, you are not bound by your geographical location  

2009 Outstanding Contribution Award - Joint Runner Up
2009 'Tech-Head Of The Year' Award - Runner Up

Like it here? Then Donate to RRSPORT!!

I don’t know about fuel quality in China, but, just to remind you, the 90% of RRS in Mexico are SC and those “works” with 92 octanes. That is the best, or you can run 87”. So, Mexican fuel quality; I don’t know…???? Only PEMEX brand .  Yuri
(ARS) XE1UN

13 RANGE ROVER SPORT HSE SDV6
Orkney Grey/Black
(Spain)

07 RANGE ROVER SPORT HSE TDV8
JavaBlack/Black
(SOLD)

05 DISCOVERY 3 G4 V8
(Spain)

02 DEFENDER 90 BLACK LE TD5
(SOLD)

13 FREELANDER 2 (LR2) HSE Lux SI4
Havana/Black
(Mexico)

Octane wouldn't be my worry, contamination with water etc would be my main concern. Certainly in Saudi much of the petrol there could be contaminated at the filling station due to inadequate rainwater runoff capacity....  Cheers

Simon

2007 2.7HSE 20" Wheels
2005 TDV6 D3 S Auto - Zambezi Silver - JE Tune - RRS 19" - Sidesteps - Roof Rails
Body Side Strips - Xenons - Bright Pack - Cold Pack - Premium Stereo
Alpine Roof - Towpack - Alpine Touchscreen Satnav - Veba Rear DVD changer
Alpine Roof Monitor - Webasto FBH Timer - Brembo Frt & S/C Rr Brakes