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Rowdie



Member Since: 14 Jan 2015
Location: Uk
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Net Zero by 2035, Insurance and reliability

Hi all

I genuinely believe I have ordered my P460 (was a P440) may last year because I want to do the right thing for the planet, but just asking for a friend !!,

Are you thinking of cancelling because of the change in government legislation,
or the recently mentioned recalls on headlights
or the software issues that have been mentioned delaying the hybrid versions
or the fact they seem to cost a fortune to insure (not necessarily specific to the hybrid)

or are you going ahead because you have confidence a PHEV RRS is still the right thing

Welcome views and opinions please ! Smile

ps. anyone who already cancelled last minute, how easy is it ? (alledged build slot in 2 weeks)

Post #636171 Tue Sep 26 2023 6:53pm
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Crs



Member Since: 04 Sep 2022
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 82

England 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography Firenze Red

Personal I will buy what I like and if that’s a V8 Petrol as I have had in the past then so be it, here in the UK we are only a small island, we are not going to save the world on our own.

Post #636175 Tue Sep 26 2023 7:38pm
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NoExpert



Member Since: 28 Jan 2022
Location: Poznań, Poland
Posts: 478

Poland 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Fuji White

A freaking men, Crs! Until India, Africa, the Middle East, South America and China get onboard, net zero means nothing globally. That’s not to say anyone should purposely run out and pollute, but this feel good legislation isn’t actually going to change much of anything. If you’re bored, download an app called Air Matters. Then take a look at the map showing the pollution globally. You’ll figure it out really quick.

As for the car, get what you want and enjoy it. If driving a PHEV puts the lead in your pencil then go for it. But do it because it benefits you and is what you want. 2011 RRS HSE Luxury 3.0 TDV6 Fuji White on Ebony/Ivory
Born and raised in So Cal. Moved to the UK in 2018 for a few years. Now in Poland and looking at moving back to the UK.

Post #636181 Wed Sep 27 2023 4:40am
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LesW



Member Since: 30 Oct 2021
Location: Pays de la Loire
Posts: 56

France 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Santorini Black

Most likely, all of a sudden, synthetic fuel will become more commonplace and cheaper, so for me I'll keep a V12 or V8 petrol. 2015 RRS HSE Dynamic 3.0 SDV6
2015 Aston Martin Vanquish
2010 Jaguar XFR Le Mans
2001 Volvo V70

Post #636184 Wed Sep 27 2023 7:13am
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Grimble



Member Since: 21 Aug 2020
Location: Staffordshire
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Net Zero is a complete con, dreamt up by metropolitan hand wringers who fundamentally cannot understand why we all don't just go to work on the tube.
No amount of impoverishing/high taxation of the population of the UK will make any difference whatsoever and please show me a bank that will take 'the right thing to do' as payment for a mortgage.
The Net Zero policy is such a fundamental change to our way of life that (just like Brexit) should have been put to a referendum. Not hard to understand why it wasn't.
The root of all societies problems is overpopulation, the planet has plenty resources, just too many consumers.
I don't have a solution other than a general resistance to anybody telling me what to do or how to live my life 'in my best interests'.
Rant over. RRS HSE Dynamic SDV6 2014

Nemo mortalium omnibus horus sapit

Post #636187 Wed Sep 27 2023 8:56am
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TheWojtek



Member Since: 08 May 2015
Location: Poznań, Poland
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Poland 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Buckingham Blue

Grimble wrote:
the planet has plenty resources, just too many consumers.


Well, you just wrote "the planet has not enough resources". If it does not suffice, it is not "plenty".

Grimble wrote:
I don't have a solution other than a general resistance to anybody telling me what to do or how to live my life 'in my best interests'.


Well perhaps if a couple of generations ago someone told people that they are going to overpopulate Earth and it is in their best interest to live their lives differently, there would be less problems with overpopulation?

Oh, no, there were too many smarties who generally resist. Regards etc.,

Wojtek

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WAS: 2006 RRS Supercharged
IS: 2010 RRS TDV8 HSE

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NoExpert



Member Since: 28 Jan 2022
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I remember a teacher in high school telling us the biggest threat to the earth is people/overpopulation. He also said we need one of three things to keep population in check; diseases, wars and disasters, which we haven’t had any bad ones in a while. I feel we’re on a collision course with all three. 2011 RRS HSE Luxury 3.0 TDV6 Fuji White on Ebony/Ivory
Born and raised in So Cal. Moved to the UK in 2018 for a few years. Now in Poland and looking at moving back to the UK.

Post #636189 Wed Sep 27 2023 9:35am
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johnwickisadiplomat



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Rowdie

Ive ordered my RRS P550e for the same reason. As I'm ordering through a company car scheme the 5% BIK makes this a no brainer compared to the ICE options. I would have ordered a fully elec RRS if it was available - and will consider changing to full elec if the price / wait time isn't ridiculous...

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Cpt Jack Sparrow



Member Since: 07 Sep 2016
Location: Cardiff
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Wales 2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Fuji White

Grimble wrote:

The root of all societies problems is overpopulation, the planet has plenty resources, just too many consumers.


I have always said, Take the warning labels off of all products and let natural selection reduce the population... Whistle Whistle

Post #636874 Fri Oct 27 2023 3:18pm
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RRSTDV8



Member Since: 12 Aug 2011
Location: Northamptonshire
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United Kingdom 2012 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

NoExpert wrote:
I remember a teacher in high school telling us the biggest threat to the earth is people/overpopulation. He also said we need one of three things to keep population in check; diseases, wars and disasters, which we haven’t had any bad ones in a while. I feel we’re on a collision course with all three.


Actually, the best way to reduce population growth is education, particularly of women. It's no surprise that the highest population growth rates tend to be in poorly educated, patriarchal societies. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

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Brian Considine



Member Since: 26 Mar 2022
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Cpt Jack Sparrow wrote:

I have always said, Take the warning labels off of all products and let natural selection reduce the population... Whistle Whistle


Unfortunatly those that need culling are hardly likely to read warning labels (that's assuming that they can read in the first place - or follow the pictograms).). 2006 RRS 2.7 HSE.

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