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John R Hickman Member Since: 26 Jan 2023 Location: Dudley Posts: 43 |
I've emailed and spoken to several suppliers of egr delete software update but can't seem to get a straight answer as to whether it removes the function totally along with any future fault codes being registered or if it just removes the mil function but still registers fault codes. Each one has said I need to fit blanking plates and leave the valves connected. Why would they still need to be connected and remain in place if they have been removed from the ecu file? I want to remove the valves and coolers altogether. I'm beginning to suspect that a lot of these are just removing the dtc function and not removing the complete egr function. Any suggestions of a reputable company to do this are welcome. I think Bell auto services do this but I don't have Gap IID tool to upload their file (I use SDD). 2008 RRS 2.7 TDV6 S Poverty model |
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Wed Sep 20 2023 1:33pm |
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John R Hickman Member Since: 26 Jan 2023 Location: Dudley Posts: 43 |
Three MOT testers who I know all gave more or less the same answer " Blank them off they don't get tested and they don't look for them" a fourth one went even further and said get rid of them altogether they are not needed and very often you get better emission results without them. Anyroad I'm still wanting to know if the patch just turns of the mill lamp or gets rid of the function altogether inc DTC's. If its just the lamp I may as well keep my £150 or so and just clear the fault every now and again. 2008 RRS 2.7 TDV6 S Poverty model |
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Wed Sep 20 2023 6:14pm |
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riverblanche Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Retford'ish Posts: 1134 |
Hi,
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Sat Sep 30 2023 7:33pm |
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John R Hickman Member Since: 26 Jan 2023 Location: Dudley Posts: 43 |
Had it remapped yesterday by Superchips along with egr delete. Once the chap had finished the software delete he unplugged the valves and said to leave them unplugged he also said no need to remove the flap. Only done about 20 miles and 5 or 6 restarts so far but no codes have shown up with a couple of subsequent re scans. I'll check again when I've done a few more miles. 2008 RRS 2.7 TDV6 S Poverty model |
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Sat Sep 30 2023 8:31pm |
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riverblanche Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Retford'ish Posts: 1134 |
Hi,
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Mon Oct 02 2023 10:38pm |
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RRSTDV8 Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 8971 |
If it's blanked off, there is no flow. That's the point of blanking them off. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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Tue Oct 03 2023 6:19am |
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riverblanche Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Retford'ish Posts: 1134 |
Hi,
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Tue Oct 03 2023 8:03am |
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riverblanche Member Since: 11 Jun 2011 Location: Retford'ish Posts: 1134 |
And
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Tue Oct 03 2023 8:08am |
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John R Hickman Member Since: 26 Jan 2023 Location: Dudley Posts: 43 |
Well I tried just unplugging them a while back before having them mapped out and got plenty of codes for them along with engine light. Could clear them but they came back and light would come back after about 3 starts. Anyway I'm happy with this remap as I gather some just tell the ecu to ignore the codes but they are still there when scanned just no engine lamp. I can't see the flap making much difference to air flow while it is stuck open and the turbo is pushing air in but I can see a case for removing it if it was still active. 2008 RRS 2.7 TDV6 S Poverty model |
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Tue Oct 03 2023 1:06pm |
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TheWojtek Member Since: 08 May 2015 Location: Poznań, Poland Posts: 737 |
"Not seeing them moving" is the actual reason ECU throws an error code. If it was that simple, just unplugging would do the job. Regards etc., Wojtek --- WAS: 2006 RRS Supercharged IS: 2010 RRS TDV8 HSE |
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Tue Oct 03 2023 2:56pm |
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RRSTDV8 Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 8971 |
Yeah, you'll get an engine light and the car will get very unhappy with you. Loss of connection (e.g. a broken wire preventing correct operation of the EGR) is a failure mode that the ECU will be looking for. If it can't talk to the EGR (or think it is, anyway), then it will consider there to be an emissions problem and try to prevent you being a bad polluting person. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders 2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed |
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Tue Oct 03 2023 4:26pm |
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John R Hickman Member Since: 26 Jan 2023 Location: Dudley Posts: 43 |
I scanned car again yesterday with SDD and still no codes well apart from a couple of U codes relating to stereo. So I can recomend the EGR patch from Superchips at least on the 2.7 engine. 2008 RRS 2.7 TDV6 S Poverty model |
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Thu Oct 05 2023 8:22pm |
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