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Salisburylander



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2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Bali Blue
Aircon refresh

Anyone done an aircon refresh recently? Change of gas, filters, condenser etc.?

My car is now 11 years old and I’m sure that the aircon is not as cold as it used to be; especially in the recent spell of hot weather.

Post #625421 Thu Jul 14 2022 2:21pm
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Grimble



Member Since: 21 Aug 2020
Location: Staffordshire
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Coincidentally, during the recent hot spell I noticed that mine wasn't working very well. Its always on auto climate control. Started to ring round and got a lot of wildly different prices and timescales.
Ended up with a same day service (Monday this week) from the place I get my tyres and tracking done.
2013 RRS onwards have the more expensive gas, I ended up paying £110 for a regas. Seemed a very easy job, fully automatic machine just hooked up and switched on and left to cycle through.
Mechanic says that its probably not been done before due to the 'new' gas being expensive but prices should come down as it becomes the dominant type.
The 'old' gas would have cost me about £50. Hope this helps. RRS HSE Dynamic SDV6 2014

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Post #625437 Fri Jul 15 2022 9:48am
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Meiang



Member Since: 29 Apr 2011
Location: Perth
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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

The airconditioning in my 2010 TDV8 has never worked that well since new. In summer I regularly have to run the system at maximum fan speed with recirculation on otherwise the inside temp is cooking. I suspect the system is only sized for "typical european temperatures".
If you listen to a Toyata Landcruiser with the aircon on and cycling, the load on the engine is much greater than the Range Rover.

Post #625439 Fri Jul 15 2022 10:57am
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jimbg



Member Since: 29 Jan 2013
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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

No, something wrong with it. My old RRS1 used to cope with 30 degrees plus with no problem. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

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Post #625440 Fri Jul 15 2022 11:08am
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Salisburylander



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2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Bali Blue

Should I just go for a regas or would it be better to go for the full service due to its age?

Post #625444 Fri Jul 15 2022 2:06pm
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garrycol



Member Since: 30 Nov 2010
Location: Canberra
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Meiang wrote:
I suspect the system is only sized for "typical european temperatures".


I suspect you have a problem - my 2007 TDV6 with 250,000km has never had the A/C worked on and it is icey cold in very hot summer weather. At temp extremes refrigerated A/C should be run on recirc just like it is in houses to maximise its efficiency as cooling 45c outside temps is just a waste of energy.

When I hop into a hot car I open the windows to quickly bring inside temps down to outside temps and then close the windows and let the A/C do its thing - in milder temps normally on fresh air but on temp extremes always on recirc with the occasional switch to fresh air to extract stale air in the cabin. 07MY RRS TDV6
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Post #625445 Fri Jul 15 2022 2:39pm
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Meiang



Member Since: 29 Apr 2011
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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

Just measure the temperature coming out of the vents with the airconditioning on (speed 3 with recycle on). It should be about 5-6 deg C.
It regularly gets above 40 C in summer here and the aircon in my car struggles at this temperature to keep the cabin cool (even with tempertures of the air leaving the vent at 5-6 C). I would say that the system that Landrover employ is just undersized for the duty.
No such problem is apparent with the big toyotas or american cars.

Post #625475 Sat Jul 16 2022 12:39pm
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garrycol



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Where I live we get the same high summer temps as you and I have no issues - you clearly have an issue. My aircon works as good as my brothers previous 200 Series Sahara and as good as his current Chev Silverado. I think it is time to get your airocn checked and serviced. 07MY RRS TDV6
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Aspen Interior

Post #625478 Sat Jul 16 2022 2:54pm
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Meiang



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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

The airconditioning works fine upto the mid 30's after that it starts to struggle with the higher temperatures. Maybe they made changes to the aircon system between 2007 (yours) and 2010 (mine).

Post #625481 Sun Jul 17 2022 3:12am
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NoExpert



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Poland 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Fuji White

My 2011 3.0 TDV6 has no problem getting the interior ice cold, so doubt it’s a 2010-2013 thing. Maybe a defect from the factory and you’ve just suffered through it? In 30°+ temps it takes my car about 20 minutes to cool down to the point the fan slows down. I keep the temp set around 21°, much lower than that and I need to wear warmer clothes than shorts and a T shirt. 2011 RRS HSE Luxury 3.0 TDV6 Fuji White on Ebony/Ivory
Born and raised in So Cal. Moved to the UK in 2018 for a few years. Now in Poland and looking at moving back to the UK.

Post #625482 Sun Jul 17 2022 4:24am
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Meiang



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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

With 5-6 deg C air comming out of the air vents I dont think there is a problem with the A/C system. As I mentioned previously with temperatures upto low to mid 30's the system works fine, above that it struggles especially in city traffic. I run the system manually and always have the temperature set to 17 C. In the summer months I regularly see the outside temperature gauge above 40 deg C.

Post #625483 Sun Jul 17 2022 5:18am
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gogsy1956



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United Kingdom 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Bali Blue

What you have to remember is that if the correct amount of gas is not in the system it will never work the way it should. Having such a small capacity any shortfall in charge makes a huge difference in operation. 2010 RRS, TDV8
bali Blue / colour coded
side steps / flappy paddles
black perforated leather
22" overfinch
heated everything, TV,fridge ...... now with gold calipers and mud flaps !( black mud flaps that is) !!
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Post #625495 Sun Jul 17 2022 7:31pm
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NoExpert



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Poland 2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Fuji White

I do agree that sitting at idle it has trouble keeping up. I think this is due to the BMS that was added in 2009/2010. I believe it cuts back the A/C compressor to reduce emissions. To get around it I nudge the accelerator to raise the RPMs a little, this usually keeps it going full speed. It also seems to cut out the A/C compressor if I jump on the accelerator. I think this is to free up power and ultimately reduce emissions.

I’ve been in 40° and mine still did fine while driving. I’m wondering how much paint color plays a role in this. Mine is white while it looks like yours is black. I went out of my way to find a white car since I’ve hated the few black cars I’ve owned when it hits summertime (coming from So Cal I’m no stranger to high temps and I really don’t like them). 2011 RRS HSE Luxury 3.0 TDV6 Fuji White on Ebony/Ivory
Born and raised in So Cal. Moved to the UK in 2018 for a few years. Now in Poland and looking at moving back to the UK.

Post #625496 Mon Jul 18 2022 5:29am
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Meiang



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Australia 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Santorini Black

The 2010 TDV8 does not have BMS as it was a legacy engine from previous generations. Also the colour of a car has no bearing on the amount of heat absorbed.

Post #625498 Mon Jul 18 2022 10:40am
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jimbg



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2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Not sure you are right about that.

The answer is yes, it does. Studies show that cars with dark paint, like black or dark blue, get hotter than cars with white or silver paint. This is because light colors reflect more sunlight than dark colors. However, there are several other factors that contribute to a car’s internal temperature, like upholstery color and material, and the car’s amount of time in the sun.




https://completecarcomfort.com/car-color-i...%20a%20car's%20color%20affect%20the%20interior%20temperature%3F,more%20sunlight%20than%20dark%20colors. 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

Post #625499 Mon Jul 18 2022 10:49am
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