Due a change in September. Have really enjoyed my AB SDV8, and love V8s generally ... but can’t see me in an SVR - bit too extrovert, I’m not keen on petrol stations, and no captains arm rest

Lease deals on diesels seem appalling, so looks like a petrol. The HST P400 looks interesting and lease deals seem comparatively good value. I’d be missing some torque, but gaining ~60bhp and maybe some refinement?

Spec decided with the exception of whether to go for the HUD. Feels like a nice toy to have, but I’m not sure it’s really needed.

Would welcome views on:

1) what people have replaced their SDV8 with

2) how well the P400 suits the car

3) if the HUD is worth having

4) if anybody has reliable insight as to when the replacement will be out. I’m thinking of taking a 30 month lease, but don’t want to order and find that RRS3 is coming out imminently!

BTW - had an X5 45e on loan for a few days - I was surprised at how very impressed I was with this, but have decided that I’d like to support British manufacturing. Also seriously considered a high-spec Velar, but the more I think about it the more it feels like quite a step-down.

Thanks
Cooperman Current: Cayenne GTS (got fed up with waiting for LR to build my third RRS)
On order: RRS3 510e AB
Gone: RRS SDV8 AB, RRS SDV6, Vauxhall Nova 1.0, Nova 1.3 SR, Nova 1.4 SRi, Renault Laguna (why?), BMW 318is coupe (fabulous - despite having to buy a radio and tape player for it from Halfords), 323i saloon, 325ti compact (superb), 320td compact (awful), VW Golf 2.0d 4Motion (all the car you really need), BMW 120d compact (excellent), 118d compact (slow), 335d coupe (rapid)

I've had a P400 for 20 months and 11.5k miles. Low mileage is due to Covid. I previously had a 3l diesel but have never really liked diesels, noisy and smelly. The petrol engine is superb, quiet and super smooth. As for torque if you have an auto its almost irrelevant, ,the car just changes gear as is needed and keeps it in the correct rev band. I choose an HSE with a few extras as listed below as I don't like all the black trim, wheels etc on the HST. The HUD looked OK but not at £1k.
My experience of the V8 diesel was renting one to take on a trip to Geneva to see how much I liked the RRS. Whilst I really liked the car the engine made no great impression on me, hence I bought a 3l diesel.
Fuel consumption is 18/20 mpg around town up to 28 mpg on a good run. The v8 diesel gave me about the same whilst the 3l would give up to 32mpg. I've read about all sorts of amazing figures for mpg but I've never been able to achieve them and find my results are very close to those delivered by Autocar on their road tests.
Yes the P400 might cost an extra £1.5k pa in fuel over the diesel but compared with the £75k++ price and depreciation its almost irrelevant .
Tim Tim
RRS sold and replaced with a Skoda Kodiaq after appalling RR Dealer experience and LR inability to supply new cars in any sort of reasonable time frame..

Thanks Tim. Good to hear that you like the P400 engine ... and yes, I know what you mean about some of the HST trim - I’m not a fan of black wheels myself but the choices are 21” in black or 22” in black! Current: Cayenne GTS (got fed up with waiting for LR to build my third RRS)
On order: RRS3 510e AB
Gone: RRS SDV8 AB, RRS SDV6, Vauxhall Nova 1.0, Nova 1.3 SR, Nova 1.4 SRi, Renault Laguna (why?), BMW 318is coupe (fabulous - despite having to buy a radio and tape player for it from Halfords), 323i saloon, 325ti compact (superb), 320td compact (awful), VW Golf 2.0d 4Motion (all the car you really need), BMW 120d compact (excellent), 118d compact (slow), 335d coupe (rapid)

My contacts who are well informed, tells me the 3ltr 6 pot hybrid electric is the RRS to get not the 4 pot. As for release date the FFRR should be available very late 2021 or very early 22. The RRS will follow possibly from June 22 but LR are prepared to let this slip. MY17 RRS 4.4d V8 Autobiography - Aintree Green (also referred to on Topix as British Racing Green)

Hi RRT. Do you mean the six pot p400 or the alleged 6 pot plug in hybrid not yet available ??

To be fair because I am keeping my SDV8 long term I am not totally sure, but he is definitely referring to EV so guess hybrid. Sorry I cant be more specific. MY17 RRS 4.4d V8 Autobiography - Aintree Green (also referred to on Topix as British Racing Green)

timhum wrote:

I've had a P400 for 20 months and 11.5k miles. Low mileage is due to Covid. I previously had a 3l diesel but have never really liked diesels, noisy and smelly. The petrol engine is superb, quiet and super smooth. As for torque if you have an auto its almost irrelevant, ,the car just changes gear as is needed and keeps it in the correct rev band. I choose an HSE with a few extras as listed below as I don't like all the black trim, wheels etc on the HST. The HUD looked OK but not at £1k.
My experience of the V8 diesel was renting one to take on a trip to Geneva to see how much I liked the RRS. Whilst I really liked the car the engine made no great impression on me, hence I bought a 3l diesel.
Fuel consumption is 18/20 mpg around town up to 28 mpg on a good run. The v8 diesel gave me about the same whilst the 3l would give up to 32mpg. I've read about all sorts of amazing figures for mpg but I've never been able to achieve them and find my results are very close to those delivered by Autocar on their road tests.
Yes the P400 might cost an extra £1.5k pa in fuel over the diesel but compared with the £75k++ price and depreciation its almost irrelevant .
Tim

I’ve had my P400 for just over 6 months and have done around 6k since I bought it. It’s a great engine, very smooth, refined but with serious go when you need it, admittedly not as quick as the SVR, but the fuel economy is significantly better. I’ve done a number of different trips in it - the last one a drive from Central Scotland to Bristol and back - averaged just over 30mpg and for the first 250miles north (with no wind assistance) averaged 32mpg, admittedly taken from the trip computer so a little poetic licence from JLR no doubt! The engine is super refined, quick to respond with the MHEV, but also quite tuneful when pushed hard to the redline. I thought about the SVR, but this seems more acceptable today than a V8 and whilst not sure about an HST, I got a second hand one 3months old with 3k on the clock - really grown to love the trim and the look, albeit, it’s a Carpathian Grey which is more muted than the Firenze red or silver versions you see. Good luck with it!

Thanks Swiggy. Sounds like the P400 is a really nice combination of performance, refinement and economy. Your Carpathian with the ebony and ivory interior looks great 👍 Current: Cayenne GTS (got fed up with waiting for LR to build my third RRS)
On order: RRS3 510e AB
Gone: RRS SDV8 AB, RRS SDV6, Vauxhall Nova 1.0, Nova 1.3 SR, Nova 1.4 SRi, Renault Laguna (why?), BMW 318is coupe (fabulous - despite having to buy a radio and tape player for it from Halfords), 323i saloon, 325ti compact (superb), 320td compact (awful), VW Golf 2.0d 4Motion (all the car you really need), BMW 120d compact (excellent), 118d compact (slow), 335d coupe (rapid)

My sources inside JLR say the FFRR will be available to order in late 2021, early 2022, with deliveries in mid 2022.

RRS3 will follow about 12-18 months behind that, as meaningful development & testing hasn't even started yet. So in reality, it's going top be at least 2 years before we see it and even then, probably best to wait for the 0.5MY to work out any kinks! Now
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Swiggy,

My fuel consumption figures were calculated on the actual amount of fuel put into the car against the miles. I found that the trip computer was over reporting by 4 mpg !

Tim Tim
RRS sold and replaced with a Skoda Kodiaq after appalling RR Dealer experience and LR inability to supply new cars in any sort of reasonable time frame..

richamartin wrote:

My sources inside JLR say the FFRR will be available to order in late 2021, early 2022, with deliveries in mid 2022.

RRS3 will follow about 12-18 months behind that, as meaningful development & testing hasn't even started yet. So in reality, it's going top be at least 2 years before we see it and even then, probably best to wait for the 0.5MY to work out any kinks!

Cooperman,

I posted camouflage pics of the new FFRR in November in the other cars section, there is a thread about the new Full fat, if it wasn’t for COVID I would think it would have been out by now but as others suggest I would agree late 21 would seem more likely now.

Nice spot M13lky! So the new FFRR is indeed roaming around the UK; presumably that was up in Scotland where it had probably seen some off road action? Current: Cayenne GTS (got fed up with waiting for LR to build my third RRS)
On order: RRS3 510e AB
Gone: RRS SDV8 AB, RRS SDV6, Vauxhall Nova 1.0, Nova 1.3 SR, Nova 1.4 SRi, Renault Laguna (why?), BMW 318is coupe (fabulous - despite having to buy a radio and tape player for it from Halfords), 323i saloon, 325ti compact (superb), 320td compact (awful), VW Golf 2.0d 4Motion (all the car you really need), BMW 120d compact (excellent), 118d compact (slow), 335d coupe (rapid)

Yes in a local services on the M74 southbound, the real body lines you could see through the camouflage wrap were very similar to the shots & images in that thread, there were some dodgy foam fake pieces stuck on to try & throw people off the final body lines etc but standing next to it they stood out a mile!