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Keijo



Member Since: 27 May 2020
Location: New South Wales
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Australia 

I believe Andy is referring to the butterfly valves in the EGR Modulator Valves.



There's no way you can remove the butterfly in the main throttle and have the car run.

Cheers

Post #601450 Wed Jul 08 2020 10:51pm
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Andy K



Member Since: 18 Sep 2015
Location: GL
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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

I’ve removed it in item 2.

For those that don’t believe Me
Disconnect the electric plug and then start it and give it a light Rev.
Drive it if u want

Post #601454 Thu Jul 09 2020 7:11am
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Keijo



Member Since: 27 May 2020
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Now you've really lost me Andy!
This is an extract from the manual regarding the "Accelerator Position Sensor" APP

"The APP is integral to the accelerator pedal assembly.
The APP sensor enables the ECM to determine the throttle position requested by the driver on the accelerator pedal.
From the sensor signals, the ECM determines driver demand as a percentage of pedal travel, where 0% is with the pedal released and 100% is with the pedal fully depressed.

Driver demand is then used to calculate throttle angle, fuel quantity and ignition timing."

That is the three basics. Air, Fuel and Spark.
The air being controlled by the throttle.

With no throttle, how do you control engine speed then?

Post #601464 Thu Jul 09 2020 11:06am
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Andy K



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Rimini Red

I can only suggest the manual is partly wrong and it appears to describe a petrol model, born out by the words " ignition timing"

Post #601466 Thu Jul 09 2020 11:51am
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Keijo



Member Since: 27 May 2020
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OK Andy,
You are correct. my manual is clearly incorrect and so am I.
Having a V8 petrol and never worked on a diesel, I have based this whole discussion on what I read in the manual about the RR TDV6.
I pondered how your car could run without the throttle butterfly so I did a lot more reading.
The TDV6 does indeed have an electronic throttle valve but it is not used for primary rpm or torque control as described, but plays a minor role with engine shutdown and EGR control as you stated.
Hats off to you mate, I have learnt something new.
Cheers,
Keijo

Post #601506 Thu Jul 09 2020 10:58pm
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Devon Z



Member Since: 22 Sep 2019
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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Java Black

I may remove mine if it’s straight forward? Not getting any specific problems but throttle response has never been eager and I still have an EGR circuit A fault code which may effect the operation of this flap maybe? EGR’s are blanked.

Steve Steve

2005 2.7 TDV6 HSE, ongoing project.
1998 Volvo V70 R auto FWD, mothballed future project.
1999 BMW Z3 (owned from new) garage queen.

Post #601552 Fri Jul 10 2020 7:12pm
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