Thanks all. Missed a couple of things so have added above but here also:

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Another feature I really like is the ability to control the front passenger seat using the driver’s seat controls. You can go into the centre console screen and select an option to tell the car you want to control the front passenger seat. Now fiddling with the driver’s seat buttons moves the corresponding components of the passenger seat instead of driver’s seat! Sure you can use memory seat options to save the settings for regular users of the car and then it is a simple press of a button but last week I picked up someone and they needed to move the passenger seat because my wife likes to keep the seat way forward as she is short. I didn’t need to give them instructions on which buttons to push and pull in the dark. I didn’t need to get out of the car and go to the other side to adjust the seat for them. Just put it in that mode and used the buttons on mine. Everything is computerised so I don’t think this feature would have required any extra hardware or huge amounts of effort. Just some clever thought and common sense.

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Queue assist also works better. As soon as my RRS came to a complete stop, the cruise/queue assist system needed driver input (accelerator) to get the car going again no matter how short the pause was. Volvo’s system has some tolerance built into it in that if the pause is very brief, the car automatically starts moving forwards when the car ahead has moved. If the stop is a bit longer (I haven’t yet worked out how many seconds), then it needs the driver to step on the pedal so as not to surprise them. The software guys have obviously put some thought into this.

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I spec’d up an RRS AB (with extras on top) to bring it as close as possible to my XC90 Inscription Pro (also with extras on top) before ordering and it was around £26k-£27k more.

That's a ridiculous amount of money! Even if the RRS was better in every respect, that price difference is difficult to swallow. When the Volvo is better in some areas, the money is indefensible.

Indeed it is a lot of money. I’ll put the numbers out there rather than be vague about it. My T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with a good few optional extras came up to just over £69k after discount. The Autobiography Dynamic PHEV with a similar spec/options list hit close to £105k on the configurator before any discount. Of course RRS had things like low range gearbox and other off-road goodies that I didn’t need but I couldn’t have taken those off the spec as they come as standard with AB Dyn.

Add to that the highly competitive Volvo finance rate of 2.52% compared to LR’s 5.9% or so. I tried Oracle and Magnitude for finance and they struggled to match Volvo’s rates, let alone beat them. In the end both gave up and wished me good luck saying they couldn’t compete  Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

When you consider that both have the same size of engine and similar PHEV systems there is basically a £30,000 price difference in favour of the Volvo if no discount is taken into account. The extra ability of the RRS with a transfer gear box and low ratios doesn’t add £30,000 worth of value either. I find it very hard to see what there is in any JLR product today that justifies prices in excess of £70,000 let alone £100,000. For sure the “buying experience” doesn’t match up to what is expected when purchasing such an expensive product and neither does the after sales treatment customers receive.
I have been reading about the new Kia E-Niro BEV, costing £30,000........... comes with 100,000 miles/ 7 years warranty as standard, the most honest actual/ claimed electric range of any BEV and comes with the usual excellent build quality of Korean made cars. If JLR offered that sort of warranty they would quickly go bust........ 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Tim we know what makes up the price difference. It is the perceived status and it is no different to any other luxury product both within and outside the auto industry. I just hope Volvo and other high quality manufacturers continue to be considered non-premium and never enter that ‘league’

I am still in the honeymoon period but will share any problems I encounter during my ownership. Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Whilst not wishing to defend RR pricing I believe you can get a well specced HSE phev for just under £80k before discount which compares well with the top of the range Volvo. In my opinion the Autobiography is an over specified money maker with many extras that are not needed or ever used. A friend in the manufacturing part of the business, although in the USA, advises to never go near the top of the range models.

I do rather like the look of the Volvo though.

Tim Tim
RRS sold and replaced with a Skoda Kodiaq after appalling RR Dealer experience and LR inability to supply new cars in any sort of reasonable time frame..

Interesting ... I will play with the configurator when I have some time. Curious to see how HSE compares to Inscription Pro now because the latter has certain things that I wanted that were optional extras even on Autobiography last time I checked (July last year). Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

The thing that annoys me is the price LR charge for items that can be had on "ordinary" cars for a fraction of the option price. Adaptive Cruise Control is, what?, £1500 from LR but can be had on a Skoda for about £400.

No doubt both manufacturers will use the same kit by Bosch or whoever it is that makes these things.

Timed climate (or whatever it's called these days, is a grand. Funny that you can add it on your driveway for a fraction of that.

What is daft is that the RRS can be had with no low range - indeed if you buy the 2.0 HSE you can't specify low range at all. So £65k for a basic RRS with no toys, no low range, reduced towing capability. £65k! 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Volvo looks pretty good to me.

Better put my tin hat on first.
I was going to say how cheap the Range Rovers are
Log onto Jaguar or Land Rover Spain and spec up a vehicle....my F Pace was cira €60k That was with my discount.

https://www.jaguar.es/jaguar-range/f-pace/...gKeF_D_BwE In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

There are some interesting discounts around in the UK at present. Buyacar.co.uk shows £58,994 today for a new RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE (plus circa £640 for the off-road pack with low range etc). Some decent discounts on the Volvo too (which does look very nice). Current: 2020 P400e HSE Dynamic

Gone: 2016 SDV6 HSE
2012 SDV6 SE

Begs the question, how much knowledge/expertise did Volvo glean from their partnership with Land Rover a few years back when they were all part of The Premier Automotive Group (PAG) owned by Ford. In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

RRSTDV8 wrote:

The thing that annoys me is the price LR charge for items that can be had on "ordinary" cars for a fraction of the option price. Adaptive Cruise Control is, what?, £1500 from LR but can be had on a Skoda for about £400.

Fkarim, I am close to deciding on a XC90 Inscription Pro T8 and wondered if you could do me a favour?

Could you measure the height from the ground to the boot floor when the car is at it's lowest setting?

I have "seen" Dangermouse on the Volvo forum, are you lurking there as well?  2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

Hi jimbg. Sure, I will measure it when I get home tonight. Yes, I am on one of the Volvo forums but I hardly visit it. Certainly not as much as I (still) come to this forum! Current: Volvo XC90 T8 Inscription Pro PHEV with some optionals on top
Gone: MY16 RRS2 3.0 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic, Carpathian Grey & Santorini Black Sliding Pano/Ebony & Ivory 2 Tone
Gone: MY13 RRS 3.0 SDV6 HSE Black Edition, Orkney Grey/Ivory
Gone: MY09 RRS 2.7 TDV6 HSE, Santorini Black/Almond

Really nice car. I am going to be looking at them. I better hurry as Volvo are restricting the top speed of all their cars to 112mph from 2020. Seems crazy as I am sure it hurts just the same crashing at 112 as opposed to the current 132mph.
Probably a money saving exercise as lower rated tyres are cheaper, but if Volvo start this it won't be long until they are all doing it & no I do not drive at 132mph, usually about 125mph

fkarim wrote:

Hi jimbg. Sure, I will measure it when I get home tonight. Yes, I am on one of the Volvo forums but I hardly visit it. Certainly not as much as I (still) come to this forum!