Well, the RRS was dropped off at the dealer yesterday for P/X.

After a significant change in my personal circumstances in March last year, I have been using the car extensively and racking up miles far outside me PCP deal, and with it ticking over 3yrs old last September my warranty had expired and there were some big bills ahead for 2019...

12mth Warranty - £950, which LR wouldn't confirm if it would cover crank failure and/or the oil dilution issue!
Insurance - Rising from £550 to over £1200 due to the mileage change
Servicing and checks - £800-£1000
2x new tyres needed in the summer - £500
Air-con regas - £250
PCP milage overage £1000
Windscreen chip - £100
PCP payment each month, not to mention the monumental negative equity it as gaining as each month went by! The market for these is really tough right now. The P/x price I got was £44.5k (best by far, the lowest price quoted from most other garages was £41-42k), and bear in mind my GFV in November this year was £43k! Even with the big spec it had, it wasn't one that would fly off the shelves. Tootle bids came in at circa £43k. Like it or not, the anti-diesel agenda in this country is hitting hard.

All in all I was looking at known bills of circa £20k for 2019, so I decided to chop it in for something newer and smaller (I no longer need the space due to the change in personal circumstances), and a petrol, and back to my 'sporty' roots.

The biggest factor for me though was the Range's engine. I had it fully serviced in September 2018 at 31k miles, and I p/x'd it with £35.5k miles and it was showing it needed an oil inspection in 1000 miles! This was too much of headache and cost minefield for me given it was outside of warranty.

Overall however, the car has been epic, it has covered my 20k miles with absolute ease, come rain or shine nothing was an issue. If only Land Rover could sort out their quality control, they would have a world beater on their hands and people like me wouldn't have to jump ship.

Anyway, thanks all for the help and advice.  SOLD - MY16 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic - Fire Engine Red, Fixed contrast pan roof, TV, Dual Screen, 5+2, Privacy, Noble paddles.

Good luck with the new car mate, your RRS2 was one of my favourites in the colour combo you had. It looked stunning in your for sale ad. All the best for the future  2003 BMW M5 - 5 Litres of V8 Optimax Slurping Goodness in Carbon Black

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What did you end up getting KMP? I am loving my new M3. Agree with your comments on quality. Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2009 Buckingham Blue RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2010 Alaska White RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
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Current - 2010 Java Black RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
Current- 2024 RRS P400 SE Dynamic

The same

There was nothing left value wise in 2011 3.0 and the dealer right royally had my pants down and definitely same coming when I bought it, so I chopped it in for a 4 series diesel and to be honest Im loving it

More miles to the gallon and more smiles cause of the M Sport set up. Its comfortable and goes when you put the loud pedal down and I can honestly admit im not missing the RR anything like I thought I would.

The one thing I can honestly say though is that the forums are very very poor nothing like this one at all

Buckster wrote:

Good luck with the new car mate, your RRS2 was one of my favourites in the colour combo you had. It looked stunning in your for sale ad. All the best for the future

Thanks, funny you should say that about the colour. When buying one I had set my heart on Firenze Red, and all the dealers selling one praised it for being a bit different to the usual black/grey. But when I came to trade it in their tune changed to the usual of "if it were black or grey I could give you more for it" etc.

scousefly wrote:

The same

There was nothing left value wise in 2011 3.0 and the dealer right royally had my pants down and definitely same coming when I bought it, so I chopped it in for a 4 series diesel and to be honest Im loving it

I nearly bought a 430/435D X-Drive Gran Coupe but in my price bracket it would mean buying lightly used, and finding one with the Adaptive Cruise was impossible. The thought of another diesel also worried me a bit. I don't believe there's anything wrong with diesels, but the scaremongering and press bias really is destroying the fuel and values.

BKHK wrote:

What did you end up getting KMP? I am loving my new M3. Agree with your comments on quality.

Long story, but for financial & practical reasons I needed to downsize/downgrade. So after much deliberation I ordered a new Golf GTI Performance with DSG in the summer with lots of toys and goodies ticked from the options list (full electric leather, Dynaudio stereo, pan roof, Dynamic chassis/adaptive damper control, bigger wheels etc etc), then VW (and Audi etc) shut down production for WLPT changes and the delays happened! I was told I wouldn't get the car until March 2019 at the earliest, so I cancelled. I looked around at all sorts of things, but the need for Adaptive Cruise Control, an auto box, economical fuel but at the same time sporty, really limited options. I tried all sorts, but nothing came close to the golf for all round practicality (I still need to ferry around my two young kids 5& 2, even though my relationship has finished), performance and economy.

Then the week before Christmas I get a surprise call from my dealer, totally out of the blue, saying my originally ordered car had yesterday evening/night turned up on the back of a transporter, with 3 other GTI orders they weren't expecting until next year! He asked me if I was still in the market. I went down to see it in the metal a few hours later where the dealer had strategically parked it in a great spot to greet me on arrival, which I knew straight away on seeing it that I was going to have it ...

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... a quick discussion later and the dealer honoured their originally quoted P/X value 'difference', honoured the big original discount on the car I was given, and they gave me the new 3.6% APR campaign rate on the finance which was introduced that week replacing the 5.5%. So I signed for it there and then. I had the option of picking it up before Xmas, but decided to wait for it to be a registered a 2019/68 plate. I picked it up on Sunday...

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Very happy with it so far, especially with the colour. It goes like a stabbed rat, the adaptive dampers in 'comfort' mode smooth out even the bumpiest of London's roads, Carplay works a dream, no worries about the engine going pop, £140 a year to tax, £199 for the first two services, £400 a year to insure and best of all I'm seeing 40mpg on a run!

The VW dealer is owned by Inchape, who have LR dealers in their franchise group, which is why they were able to give me more p/x, so I suspect my RRS will end on one of their forecourts. I'm keeping an eye out.

 SOLD - MY16 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic - Fire Engine Red, Fixed contrast pan roof, TV, Dual Screen, 5+2, Privacy, Noble paddles.

Very similar story to my own.

Chopped the RRS in soon as it showed a smidgen of +ve equity on the PCP, with about 6 months to run on the OE warranty, as I simply could not trust it any more, what with oil changes being wanted very few thousand miles and other issues.

Funny thing is, as I mentioned here ages ago, I bought a little Suzuki Swift as a stopgap car while I decided what I really wanted. Now I like it so much is has become the car I wanted...……….if you had told me that a year ago I would have laughed in your face.

Think I am done with "luxury" motors, although that Alpine A110 does speak to me...…….. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

That is one nice looking golf,probably one of the best colour combo's also. Andy.
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Gone but not forgotten
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2014 RRS SC Santorini
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2014 RRS AB Fuji
2012 RRS Red Edition Fuji
2015 Nissan Navara
2012 RRS SE Santorini
2008 RRS White
2007 RRS Santorino

That`s a nice Golf. Didn`t fancy an R? Steve.

All of us trading down to smaller non diesel, non-JLR products after long periods of owning them must surely be telling JLR something about their products that are getting near to the end of their warranty and the price of a new JLR replacement. Maybe they need an SVR DiscoSport/ Evoque / E-Pace at the same price as a base spec Golf GTi/ Audi S3 .............

The Golf is a cracker in that colour, hope you enjoy many happy miles in it 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

All the best mate - hand around!

Did you no fancy the new Evoque at circa £35k?

Tyrefitter wrote:

That is one nice looking golf,probably one of the best colour combo's also.

Cymruambyth wrote:

That`s a nice Golf. Didn`t fancy an R?

Tim in Scotland wrote:

All of us trading down to smaller non diesel, non-JLR products after long periods of owning them must surely be telling JLR something about their products that are getting near to the end of their warranty and the price of a new JLR replacement. Maybe they need an SVR DiscoSport/ Evoque / E-Pace at the same price as a base spec Golf GTi/ Audi S3

RRSman wrote:

Did you no fancy the new Evoque at circa £35k?

I had an Evoque as a courtesy car when mine went in for service in September, and I wasn't impressed. Very small, poor materials and all round poor visibility. Spec a new shape one up to a similar spec to the Golf and they are pretty silly priced too, £50k+!

I also think they have a very questionable "image" for a middle aged man to be driving around in.  SOLD - MY16 SDV6 Autobiography Dynamic - Fire Engine Red, Fixed contrast pan roof, TV, Dual Screen, 5+2, Privacy, Noble paddles.

Agree with the image thing - may look a bit odd but depending on the colour one may just get away with it on the new model as it looks bloody slick! I have a First Edition on order for the mrs and its due for delivery early March. I was surprised at how well it drove as compared to the previous gen Evoque - still not on air suspension but it's really a much smoother drive now.

Nice Golf ... slightly better than mine

kmpowell wrote:

When I first started seeing people on here jumping ship, it did make me twitch a bit and start wondering if I should do the same when it came to it.

Nice golf. Wonder how it will go in the bush? M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

I often ask Australian dealers are the V6 cranks and issue. seems very few failures in this part of the world? Maybe the issues are related to use and application. One thing I observe is many people buy the vehicle for the wrong application. If a Golf will fill the needs of a Range Rover it pretty much says to me the Range Rover was the wrong vehicle in the first place. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.