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Tony666 Member Since: 26 Jul 2011 Location: Barry Posts: 170 |
Well I’ve just had the same problem, car wouldn’t start, suspected glow plugs but warming this sensor did the trick....any ideas for a permanent fix? Many thanks to Marsh 23 for getting me out of trouble 👍 |
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Fri Jan 04 2019 12:00pm |
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Lindab Member Since: 20 Nov 2017 Location: Dundee Posts: 903 |
Just a guess, but could you not insulate the sensor with bubble wrap or a bit of tube lagging you put over water pipes. May save you pulling off the engine cover. I don't have this model so may be talking a load of rubbish but worth a try |
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Fri Jan 04 2019 12:34pm |
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Tony666 Member Since: 26 Jul 2011 Location: Barry Posts: 170 |
Not a bad idea maybe, I'll give it a try. I do wonder though, why would the temp reading from this sensor prevent the car from starting. With my very limited mechanical knowledge I'm assuming that the sensor is reporting a cold coolant temperature, which maybe requires something else to take place in order for the engine to fire up? i.e. additional warming from the glow plugs? Warming the sensor with hot water fools the sensor to report 'normal' temperatures and the car starts up but is that having a negative impact on something else?
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Fri Jan 04 2019 5:19pm |
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Tony666 Member Since: 26 Jul 2011 Location: Barry Posts: 170 |
So I've been digging into this problem on the D3 site, it seems the sensor I was referring to is known as the ECT (Engine Coolant Temperature) sensor, and feeds temperature information to the ECU that controls the glow plugs. The glow plugs have three modes of operation, pre-cranking, cranking and afterglow (I think!). By warming the ECT sensor, the ECU operates the glowplugs differently (I'm assuming eliminating the pre-cranking stage?), as it thinks the ambient temperature is higher than it actually is.
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Fri Jan 04 2019 11:26pm |
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Brit Plumber Member Since: 05 Jan 2018 Location: Sleaford, Lincolnshire Posts: 1849 |
The clouds of white smoke will be vapourised diesal fuel and is a sympton of a car that hasn’t fired up. Rather than concentrating on glow plugs, you may want to broaden your thought process unless you have fault codes pointing to glow plugs. I was thinking it may be an air issue, if the coolant sensor is warmed, does it tell the ECU to allow more air in at start rather than perhaps nothing (when it should be choked). 2019 5.0 SC SVA (Current)
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Sat Jan 05 2019 10:08am |
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Brit Plumber Member Since: 05 Jan 2018 Location: Sleaford, Lincolnshire Posts: 1849 |
Quote from another thread.
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Sat Jan 05 2019 10:17am |
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Tony666 Member Since: 26 Jul 2011 Location: Barry Posts: 170 |
Cheers, useful stuff. I think the first thing I'll do is check the current draw on each glow plug, as this seems to be a relatively straight forward test, and take it from there...... |
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Sun Jan 06 2019 7:41pm |
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Niclas79 Member Since: 17 Jan 2021 Location: Skellefteå Posts: 5 |
And where is this sensor on a tdv8? Cant find mine... |
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Sun Jan 17 2021 6:06pm |
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