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"Maybe in the UK but internationally they're selling fairly well. Over 16k so far and I think in September they sold more Velars than Sports. Don't get me wrong, I love the Sport and had an RRS1 and will get the next generation Sport. But I love my Velar First Edition as it's a wonderful drive".

Problem is people in the US dont pay what the rest of the world pays.

If I want a Velar first edition P380 the drive away cost is AU$185,000. Thats UKP106,000.

They have to be joking.

Lack of stealer competition here in Perth with both being owned by the same group. I am paying less than that for a new V8SC. Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2009 Buckingham Blue RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2010 Alaska White RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
Gone - 2017 Chawton White RRS 5.0 V8 Supercharged
Current - 2010 Java Black RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
Current- 2024 RRS P400 SE Dynamic

If I had not wanted a change I would have purchased the R Line touareg in the V8 Diesel. If you want more pose the Porsche in the same engine is less dollars than the RRS in the V8. IMO these are great all WD vehicles and are well sorted. I think my next car will be a V6 diesel Amarok , done up for real off road touring . Love to be able to fit a bull bar and some accessories to get into the center of Oz. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

So if I'm going for the 3.0 S/C then i shouldn't worry about all this?

Econ, even better - you won’t have a DPF to clog up if you also do a lot of city driving...... 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

econ wrote:

So if I'm going for the 3.0 S/C then i shouldn't worry about all this?

why bother with the 3.0 SCV6? rather go for the 5.0 SCV8, it's more economical than the V6 and a lot more fun to drive  --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport Supercharged V8 HSE Dynamic



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

"it's more economical than the V6"

Really? 

yep, that's the feedback I got - turns out that you have to drive the SCV6 pretty hard to get the performance, and thus the consumption suffers. --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport Supercharged V8 HSE Dynamic



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

Naks how many Rand for a RRS in SA? I remember when I was there in 73 the Rand was on par with the Aussie dollar. M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

As far as I am aware the only petrol engine version of the RRS available with Dynamic Response is the 5L Supercharged V8 all other petrol engines since 2010 (globally) have not been available with it even as an option. A RRS without Dynamic Response is not a proper RRS.

IRBails wrote:

Naks how many Rand for a RRS in SA? I remember when I was there in 73 the Rand was on par with the Aussie dollar.

Brand new, they start at R1.1 million for the S, and go all the way to 2.2 for the SVR  --
2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear
2015 Range Rover Sport Supercharged V8 HSE Dynamic



Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9
Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO
Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ

WOW Naks that is amazing, maybe it's time to Visit SA with the Rand at that price? M16 SVD8 ,4.4 HSE with a few extras, Sold R50 , Wife SQ5 , BMW R1200GSW.

naks wrote:

yep, that's the feedback I got - turns out that you have to drive the SCV6 pretty hard to get the performance, and thus the consumption suffers.

I can verify that this is true. My 2010 Sport had 375 hp and 375 lb/ft of torque (non supercharged) and the mileage was about the same as my Velar with the 3.0 P380 V6. The Velar ends up being slightly quicker due to being 400 lbs lighter (approx) but yeah you have to rev the out of the engine to get close to the claimed 5.3 0-60 times. There goes the fuel savings. Plus the V6 just feels and sounds like it's working so hard. The V8 has so much torque that off the line it just goes and is so smooth. I will never get a Range Rover with this V6 again. It's the only thing I don't like about the Velar but I had 3 V8 vehicles in a row and my senses were conditioned by them (2 Audis, 1 Sport). Other people won't mind as much and are not lead footed like I am.

LR should have offered an "autobiography" version of the Velar with a V8 but I guess they're holding it back to drive sales on an SVR version next year. I honestly don't know how people can be happy with the heavier Sport with this same P380 engine. for me only the V8 is acceptable. Supercharged and SVR version even better.

If I could get a bigger and higher Velar with the Sport SVR engine I would be so happy -- hopefully that is what the next generation Sport will be like. Time will tell. 2018 Range Rover Sport SVR – Bosphorus Grey

Meiang wrote:

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"Maybe in the UK but internationally they're selling fairly well. Over 16k so far and I think in September they sold more Velars than Sports. Don't get me wrong, I love the Sport and had an RRS1 and will get the next generation Sport. But I love my Velar First Edition as it's a wonderful drive".

Problem is people in the US dont pay what the rest of the world pays.

If I want a Velar first edition P380 the drive away cost is AU$185,000. Thats UKP106,000.

They have to be joking.

naks wrote:

econ wrote:

So if I'm going for the 3.0 S/C then i shouldn't worry about all this?

why bother with the 3.0 SCV6? rather go for the 5.0 SCV8, it's more economical than the V6 and a lot more fun to drive