In the new edition of autoexpress there is several photos and details of the 2018 RRS". The new prices start just up under £3k on MY17 models. Top price with all selectable extras to over £100,000.
This includes details of the Hybrid "electric" versions meant to be capable of 101mpg but with a pathetic range.
Link: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/ra...=newslette John

RRS MY12 SDV6 HSE. Sumatra Black/Ebony & Walnut + Dynamic Pack, + Cold Climate Pack + Memory Pack, Digital TV/DVD, Premium Leather, Cornering Lights, Cooler/Fridge Box, & most Options.

The range is on a par with current technology for 13 kwh but Mitsubishi announced in 2016 next generation will have 75 miles EV range https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-s...t-revealed LR needs to up its game considering how late they are to the party and the prices

As for 101 mpg  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

And that is under the new more realistic method of calculating mpg, I'm sure that under the old scheme LR would have been able to fiddle it show the car didn't need any petrol at all and then the more realistic figure would be NIL mpg!
I think the mpg is going to just like all PHEVs, totally unrealistic as how can you say how much EV use you will get. I met a couple with a Muddywheels wagon who had been able to run 98% of their trips in electric mode in their Outlander, they ran all the time in EV mode and only used petrol when the engine diagnostics told them that the petrol was loosing is quality and they had to run with the ICE. For most of my motoring now 31 miles range is OK, could be better but I do a 16 miles each way run that is on a mostly flat and straight roads I doubt very much I would ever see 31 miles out of a charge, I would think a more real life figure might be 25 miles. Where I park now there are 6 charger units that are unused most of the time, if I can do the run to town and then leave the car to charge while shopping then in theory I could do the trip in totally EV mode BUT I like my comforts like heated seats, heated steering wheel, heated front screen and climate control and they all consume lots of energy.
I wonder if in the PHEV the radio will still only give you 10 minutes listening before it shuts down........ to save flattening the battery! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

So much utter eyewash (to stay polite) quoted about PHEV and pure EV range figures and mpg.

It really does need sorting out, as so many people without engineering knowledge fall for it hook line and sinker.

In exactly the same way as they did for the current emissions/economy test figures. MY2016 HSE D SDV6 - gone due to fuel dilution problems.

By the age of 50 you have the face you deserve - George Orwell.

Tim - on mitsubishi using air con, heated seats and steering wheel makes no difference to EV range but using climate control heater canes the range

I use the timed climate or phone app to preheat and this helps maintain battery range in winter if plugged in when activated - I also like the fact I can do this while in garage with doors closed unlike the webasto

Mpg will vary more on a PHEV than any vehicle I've owned depending on use - I have had 164 mpg best out of a tank and 34 mpg worst - all depends on your journey/charge pattern

However I only averaged 35 mpg out of DS Diesel not claimed 53 mpg so I'm still better off  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Other than political expediency, I'm struggling to see the point of a large 4x4 PHEV. Weight is the biggest cause of fuel use on any vehicle that doesn't spend it's life at constant motorway speeds. A lightweight vehicle with decent modern ICE would seem to be a better bet if mpg is an issue. Using batteries to hold regen braking charge is sensible as that's getting back some otherwise wasted energy. Otherwise, meh.

LR would be better losing half a tonne from the weight of their vehicles. The so called "lightweight" RRS2 is still basically 2.5t on the road. Make a true 2t RRS and you're getting 20% better fuel use straight away! 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

I've had mine a year now and totally get the point of a PHEV

I can use it locally on electric for peanuts and still cruise long range in comfort on petrol if needed with reasonable economy

Plus I still have 4x4 benefits for winter

The world is round not flat by the way  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

But it such a boring car to drive Muddy, I know, you have milk float 2 for “fun” Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2009 Buckingham Blue RRS 2.7 TDV6
Gone - 2010 Alaska White RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
Gone - 2017 Chawton White RRS 5.0 V8 Supercharged
Current - 2010 Java Black RRS 5.0 V8 Aspirated
Current- 2024 RRS P400 SE Dynamic

Muddy, I get PHEV as a concept. I really do. It's the idea of a fully capable 2.5 tonne 4x4 PHEV I don't get. Yours is a 4wd estate car ( in effect) and works well as such. It'll tow an ordinary caravan and will traverse a farm track - perfect for most. If you don't need towing or off road ability then there are loads of options in the hybrid/electric market e.g. BMW i3, Tesla, Prius etc etc.

The RRS PHEV is entirely able to chase Defenders in to the depths of nowhere. Why? Entirely pointless because most just do school runs or trips to Waitrose. It exists to keep politicians happy, nothing more.

Actually, the world is very lumpy and mostly wet. Not PHEV territory at all...  2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

If I wanted to go off road seriously I'd have a defender  Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!