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RRSman Member Since: 10 Feb 2015 Location: London Posts: 1439 ![]() ![]() |
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RRSman Member Since: 10 Feb 2015 Location: London Posts: 1439 ![]() ![]() |
Enlighten me as not too techy - is this a bad thing and if so why? |
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360 Member Since: 02 Aug 2013 Location: kent Posts: 116 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Just got to be careful you don't get oil off the chain on your trousers remember your trouser clips
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donny dog Member Since: 23 Nov 2016 Location: yorkshire Posts: 772 ![]() ![]() |
It's unusual, and presumably arises because of the car's rear-wheel drive 'ancestry'. As for downsides, I can't offer a technical critique, but it doesn't sound very 'positive', and makes me also wonder whether it will require adjustment, maintenance, or long-term replacement. Like the Haldex system on the Evoque, it also detracts from the off-road 4 x 4 image of the car, being electronically controlled, with no driver intervention possible. Also like the Evoque, I assume the cars normally runs heavily biased towards being rear-wheel driven (it's 95/5 in the Evoque, unless the electronics detect something that justifies shifting more drive to the front). I'm sure that the average driver will neither care, however, nor notice any difference! |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 ![]() ![]() |
There is a nice write-up in the Sunday Times magazine as well. Again compares the car to the Macan S. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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RRSTDV8 Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 9013 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The RRS's front wheels are driven by a chain too, as are FFRR and Disco. It's in the transfer box. Presumably the RRV uses the same system.
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donny dog Member Since: 23 Nov 2016 Location: yorkshire Posts: 772 ![]() ![]() |
Well, I for one didn't know that! |
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RRSTDV8 Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 9013 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Wrong way round. Evoque and FL2 are FWD unless wheel slip is detected, the drive is sent to the rear. In later Evoques, the drive to the rear is totally disconnected when not needed in order to save fuel. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders 2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed |
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donny dog Member Since: 23 Nov 2016 Location: yorkshire Posts: 772 ![]() ![]() |
Now that I did know, I just got myself confused! |
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Tim in Scotland Member Since: 30 May 2005 Location: Driving along in my automobile Posts: 17476 ![]() ![]() |
It is interesting about the chain because Velar has no transfer box. Evoque/Disco Sport have 95% power to front wheels and 5% to the rears and that can be swopped to the end with the most grip via the Viscous coupling. Only the Evoque Petrols have the "ActiveDrive" as standard (their petrol consumption is awful so LR had to do something to reduce it) but it is also a paid for option on the diesels now (but not taken up by many). It disengages the rear drive of the Evoque above 28mph but can re-engage in 1/300th of a second if rear wheel slip is detected. Also oddly on Dynamic Evoques the Dynamic system is also a paid for option now even on cars badged as Dynamic you have to tick the box to get the Magneride suspension and Dynamic function in the TR system............... penny pinching again. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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RRSTDV8 Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 9013 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
All four wheel drives have some form of transfer box. The Velar doesn't have a low range but it will still need a box the transfer drive to both axles. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
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donny dog Member Since: 23 Nov 2016 Location: yorkshire Posts: 772 ![]() ![]() |
So is there a difference between the chain used to drive the front wheels in a Velar, and other LR products? Or is the use of a chain unique to LR systems? If not, why was it commented on especially in the Velar write-up?
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donny dog Member Since: 23 Nov 2016 Location: yorkshire Posts: 772 ![]() ![]() |
Found this on t'internet. Is this similar what you're referring to? (The chain in this is not what I'd imagined, I was thinking along the lines of a Reynolds type chain - I can understand how this chain would be far more robust and reliable).
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RRSTDV8 Member Since: 12 Aug 2011 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 9013 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That's similar to the LR system, yes, but the LR one (by Magna Steyr) is more compact.
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