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Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
Posts: 17476

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Stornoway Grey

Rolo, yes I remember the Vineyard posts and photos. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Sun Jan 22 2017 1:22pm

d-9

Member Since: 10 Jan 2017
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 311

2007 Range Rover Sport TDV8 HSE Java Black

[quote="Rolo"]

Tim in Scotland wrote:

It was last September when I reversed over the edge of this sunken vineyard by mistake. I wrote about it at the time on a separate thread but at the time was more concerned with how close I came to flipping the vehicle as I reversed down that slope. The vines are about 4 feet high, so I estimate that the grass bank was 10 feet. You can see the gouge I left in the grass on the left hand edge nearest the camera. In the process of reversing down, I ripped off the front bumper and filled the exhaust cowls solid with grass and soil. So I'd been pretty near vertical.

Thats a horrible situation to be in! I believe the answer to what you should do is:
1. select rock crawl to fully lock center diff.
2. Put suspension on offroad (if it hasnt already gone to the max height)
3. attempt to drive out of it
4. find someone to tow you out.

I realise that 4 is a real problem at times, but if youve got the vehicle resting on its chassis, you dont usually have a lot of choice. Looking at the pictures of that bank, i wouldnt want to reverse down it, well done for not rolling!

as an aside, i like the camper/bed platform conversion, do you have a thread talking about it and what you use it for?

Sun Jan 22 2017 2:23pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 30 May 2005
Location: Driving along in my automobile
Posts: 17476

Engaging HDC would also help as then you would have to physically drive backward to go faster than the 3mph (which is pretty darned fast in that situation!) that the HDC would let you descend at. The problem would be resisting putting you foot on the brake which would disengage the HDC................. 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
2015MY Corris Grey SDv6 HSE Dynamic, the best car I have ever owned, totally reliable only a cou0le of rattles in 3 years, now no longer in my care
Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Sun Jan 22 2017 2:28pm

Lonescout

Member Since: 30 Aug 2016
Location: UK
Posts: 35

2006 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Cairns Blue

If my understanding is correct, putting the vehicle into off road height pushes the wheels down thus lifting the body. If the chassis is resting on the ground, as in the OPs predicament, then as the front wheels make contact with the ground they will push against it. The net effect of this will be to lift the front end up thus transferring more of the vehicle weight to the rear and therefore not increasing traction at the front.
Depending on the fulcrum point this could end up pushing the vehicle over the edge.

Last edited by Lonescout on Sun Jan 22 2017 8:30pm. Edited 2 times in total

Sun Jan 22 2017 2:44pm

Rolo

Member Since: 29 Feb 2016
Location: Manchester South
Posts: 47

2011 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 Autobiography Chawton White

[[/quote]
"Nice photos, didn't know that Manchester was so scenic ! And vineyards !!!! who says Global Warming is a myth [/quote]

We keep this secret to ourselves !

The images in the gallery here are just snaps taken of the Range Rover Sport when on my travels to pursue my photography interests. I've converted the rear of my car into occasional sleeping accommodation with a 7 feet long bed and a 42 litre fridge, plus hidden cooking, food and clothes storage areas.

The results of my photo endeavours can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rolophoto/

Gary

Sun Jan 22 2017 3:09pm

Rolo

Member Since: 29 Feb 2016
Location: Manchester South
Posts: 47

[quote="d-9"][quote="Rolo"]

Tim in Scotland wrote:

as an aside, i like the camper/bed platform conversion, do you have a thread talking about it and what you use it for?

d-9, I did discuss my camper conversion with photos on this thread: http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic43569-30.html

I shared the images with Land Rover and they told me that they'd never seen such a conversion on an Range Rover Sport.

The car has not been modified in any way, not even a screw. The conversion is 6" higher than the floor at the tailgate and slightly deeper as it gets towards the front. It's all made out of wood, 12 ply and a few pieces 5"x1" pine.

I leave the rear section with the two 3 feet deep drawers in place at all times, removing only to access the spare wheel. I use plastic zip ties to fix it to the luggage eyes. It's placed to enable the rear passenger seats to be in their normal position when the front platform/storage is removed. One big benefit is that the double locking system of the car prevents the tailgate from being opened, preventing access to the zip ties and the underfloor area. I therefore feel confident that the storage is very secure against a window smashing thief.

The passenger side storage frame accommodates all my clothes and waterproofs. The lid completes the single bed platform. As I'm 6ft tall, I remove the seat base, two bolts, and I've got more length than I need to stretch out. The smaller frame and platform for the area behind the drivers seat completes the platform producing more than ample space for a double bed. I don't fit the latter and use the space for the Fridge.

The unit was developed to remove any need for a small tent when I'm on lengthy photo trips. It was hugely successful in 2016 on a 10 day visit to Harris/Lewis and a 25 night trip along the Atlantique coast of France, from Roscoff to Cap Ferret and back. I slept in the car every night, so no accommodation charges at all, and was located exactly where I wanted to be at dawn and dusk. That included overnights at remote coastal locations and the city centres of Brest and Bordeaux.

It was great to not have to find campsites, set up and tear down the tent and the time and fuel saving by not having to return to camp was substantial. I've no intention of using a tent again.

Gary

Sun Jan 22 2017 4:10pm

Buckster

Member Since: 05 Mar 2015
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 1656

2013 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Orkney Grey

Awesome photography on your flickr account Gary 2003 BMW M5 - 5 Litres of V8 Optimax Slurping Goodness in Carbon Black

2013 SDV6 HSE Black Edition- Orkney Grey with Ebony & Ivory. LR Facelift RAI, Genuine G4 Expedition Rack, 4x Warn SBD-160 Spotlights, Warn 9.5XPS Winch, Mantec Underbody Protection and Sump Guard, Full Easy Lift Suspension Module, LR Light Guards, Light Force HTX230 Hybrid spotlights, 18” Compomotive PD1881 on 265/65/18 BF Goodrich KO2, ARB fridge, TuffTrek awning 😎

Sun Jan 22 2017 8:01pm

HemoRRS

Member Since: 31 Mar 2016
Location: Wolverhampton
Posts: 254

2010 Range Rover Sport 3.0 TDV6 HSE Santorini Black

They are some lovely shots, is it a career or hobby Gary?

Sun Jan 22 2017 8:30pm

Rolo

Member Since: 29 Feb 2016
Location: Manchester South
Posts: 47

Thanks Buckster.

HemoRRS, it's a long standing hobby by which I earned wages for a few years.

I retired early in anticipation of major surgery, which is now behind me, and decided to travel as far as I can on as small a budget as possible, for as long as I can. My 'converted' Range Rover Sport is a key component of that ambition. A VW Transporter was a good alternative, but everybody would expect a sleeping driver inside. I could park my RRS overnight in front of your house and you'd never guess I was inside. 😎

Sun Jan 22 2017 10:23pm

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