RRSman wrote:

Unfortunately the system is unable to piggyback of your phones data amd needs a dedicated 3g simcard for full functionality. Not sure how much is needed but 12gb seems to be plenty enough!

Yes it needs a micro sim. Not sure if the car is 4G compatible as it only shows 3G on the display when the sim is inserted.

Is there any 4g outside of the big cities in the south of England? Seems impossible to get it anywhere north of Manchester and even then it isn't great coverage, as for up here, forget it. I had to laugh at the Autumn Statement when they mentioned roll out of 5g - at my house we can barely get GPRS let alone 3g and inside the house there is only a phone signal if I stand at the kitchen window and I am only 18 miles north of Glasgow not out in the wilds of the Highlands 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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RRSman wrote:

Yes it needs a micro sim. Not sure if the car is 4G compatible as it only shows 3G on the display when the sim is inserted.

Tim in Scotland wrote:

Is there any 4g outside of the big cities in the south of England? Seems impossible to get it anywhere north of Manchester and even then it isn't great coverage, as for up here, forget it. I had to laugh at the Autumn Statement when they mentioned roll out of 5g - at my house we can barely get GPRS let alone 3g and inside the house there is only a phone signal if I stand at the kitchen window and I am only 18 miles north of Glasgow not out in the wilds of the Highlands

RRSman wrote:

Unfortunately the system is unable to piggyback of your phones data amd needs a dedicated 3g simcard for full functionality. Not sure how much is needed but 12gb seems to be plenty enough!

You need to be careful if your car has a WiFi hot spot enabled and you use iPhone and/or iPod with iCloud. I have a iPod permanently connected to the iPod USB and plug my iPhone into the InControl USB. By default both iPod and iPhone were set to 'automatically backup' and 'update' when plugged in, so they duly did. Often. Over the car's WiFi.  

Donny, I've been with O2 since god was a boy as that was the only network we used to be able to get where I am for many years. 2 years ago Orange put up a mast but at my end of the village we cannot get it, my parents who are at the other end of the village can get Orange but not O2............. still no Vodaphone, EE or any other providers. It's not like we are down in a dark valley or shaded by mountains, its the providers who cannot be bothered to negotiate mast site deals 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
2018 Melting Silver Mini Countryman PHEV - soon to be replaced
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Also in my garage is a 1996 TDi300 Defender 90 County HT made into a fake CSW

Tim, I've been with O2 since before it was even O2!! I had my first mobile phone off them when they were BT Cellnet in 1989! Before that, I had two bean cans on a string!

As for the 4G signal, I have several masts nearer to me than the one I get my 4G from, including an O2 one which doesn't transmit 4G. The only signal that will travel 20 miles or so is the 800 MHz one. I can get 1 bar 4G on a phone, but I get 4-5 bars on my wi-fi router using the external aerial. Although I don't have unlimited data (I get 25 GB a month) it has transformed my use of the internet. Whereas I used to download at 0,15 Mb/s on the landline if I was lucky, I now get 40 Mb/s! Because of the frequencies they use, I can't actually get 3G or 2G. If you can identify an 800 MHz mast within 20 miles of you, and get a suitable aerial, it might be worth a try. Ideally you need a MiMo one (which contains two out of phase antennae) tuned to 800/900 MHz, or two separate Logi antennae, also 800/900, spaced out on the roof as far apart as you can.