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Bladeboy



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Siberian Silver

Some people getting a little over excited about this. Don't think I've used my handbrake in 2 years!

Post #501397 Thu Jul 21 2016 7:29pm
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MJ87



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United Kingdom 2011 Range Rover Sport SDV6 HSE Fuji White

Wtf is his problem. Laughing
Comes onto the forum with a name of motfail123 just to comment on a post about an mot failure then turns his location to bye. Got to love a good troll Rolling with laughter

Post #501399 Thu Jul 21 2016 8:08pm
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ilard



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Perhaps the "fail" part of the username refers to winning friends and influencing people.

No, seriously, I am sure it is well intentioned commentary delivered with passion, and driving a car with a known defect does carry a non-zero risk of prosecution or insurance issues. I have to say, I did not realise MOT fails were officially recorded, so learned something there, much appreciated. Thumbs Up L405 P400e Autobiography (MY2020)... Silicon Silver / Espresso
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Post #501400 Thu Jul 21 2016 8:26pm
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Bladeboy



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England 2005 Range Rover Sport TDV6 HSE Siberian Silver

Anyone spot any similarities with another recently departed idiot?

Post #501401 Thu Jul 21 2016 8:35pm
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Tyrefitter



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He must have crawled back to his first location he had,,Bumhole Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Andy.
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Gone but not forgotten
Focus RS Red Edition
2015 RRS AB Fuji.
2014 RRS SC Santorini
2016 VW Amarok
2014 RRS AB Fuji
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Post #501402 Thu Jul 21 2016 8:36pm
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GodivaNige



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When my Dad decided he no longer wanted to continue driving, he asked me to sell his car for him. To help it sell, I decided to get it MOT'd so it had a full 12 months ticket, despite there being 4 months left on the current MOT. It failed on a split CV rubber.
The MOT station informed me it was illegal to drive the car after the fail was issued other than to a testing station for a retest or to a repair garage. If caught on the road, I'd have to prove I have an appointment with a garage and that I was travelling to that appointment. So, even though it had a full 4 months left on the original MOT, this was now null and void. I queried this with my sister in law who is a traffic cop, and she confirmed what the testing station said.
No matter what term is left on a current MOT, if it has an interim test and fails for ANY reason, that fail overrides any existing certificate.

PS, I'm not a troll Wink Very Happy

Post #501403 Thu Jul 21 2016 8:42pm
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MJ87



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We thank you for your informed input into this without attacking everyone with spiteful comments Thumbs Up
Laughing
Welcome to the forum.

Post #501405 Thu Jul 21 2016 8:51pm
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GodivaNige



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Thanks, great forum. Have picked up lots of info already about my newly acquired RRS Smile

Your also allowed to drive a vehicle to your place of residence after a test appointment, with a fail certificate. Although, the law states this has to be via the 'most direct route' which if caught, would have to be demonstrated to a magistrate. If the MOT station mark the fail as 'dangerous unroadworthy' i.e. something like a complete brake failure, then you're not allowed to drive the vehicle on the road, period. Not even to your home or another garage. You have to get it recovered.
The MOT station can't stop you from driving away though, even with a 'dangerous unroadworthy' mark on the fail certificate, only the police have the power to impound your vehicle.

Post #501406 Thu Jul 21 2016 9:09pm
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Camelrock



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This is what I've said before when you go for an mot and it fails then what ever was left on the old ticket is null and void. Also don't forget you only have 10 working days to get a free retest ..




I'm not a troll either Thumbs Up 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
2009 TDCi 90 current
2018 Discovery 5 HSE lux current
1994 Dakar current

Post #501407 Thu Jul 21 2016 9:33pm
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Lost for Words



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Can you point to the law that states this though?

The Road Traffic Act 1988 is very clear that if within 1 month before the end of the MOT certificate (or after too) the new certificate is to be treated as starting at the end of the old one. It cannot, therefore, override the old one since it has not, in the eyes of the law, been issued yet.

Now, if it were at an earlier date, it's less clear, but I haven't seen an applicable section of the law that states that an old certificate can be overrided by a new one.

What I am not saying by this, however, is that other offences can't apply as a result - if the car is no longer roadworthy, it is not legal whether MOT'd or not, but that is down to the actual roadworthiness of the vehicle, not the MOT status.

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Post #501417 Fri Jul 22 2016 7:51am
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npinks
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Bladeboy wrote:
Anyone spot any similarities with another recently departed idiot?


funnily enough the once departed idiot has signed up with a new name...... Reported to the boss Rolling Eyes

Post #501423 Fri Jul 22 2016 8:42am
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RRSTDV8



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Can't find anyone that can do it sooner and provide a loan car. For logistical reasons, I have decided to park the RRS for the week and hire a car. Will then just drive the RRS to get fixed and I have retest booked for the following morning. This seems to be the only certainly legal way. SWMBO needs her car this week so can't use that.

All a pain in the butt really. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Post #501426 Fri Jul 22 2016 9:07am
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Camelrock



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What your talking about is when you take your car in for test within 28 days of the expirery date and it passes and is issued with a new ticket, not a fail which as said above is null and void if it fails 2008 G4 RRSport TDV8 current
2009 TDCi 90 current
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Post #501429 Fri Jul 22 2016 9:17am
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Lost for Words



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Where is the statement in law regarding the invalidation of an old certificate? Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Auto HSE Zambezi Silver

Post #501443 Fri Jul 22 2016 12:11pm
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muddywheels
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https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/after-the-test

Quote:
Driving a vehicle that’s failed

You can take your vehicle away if your MOT certificate is still valid.

If your MOT has run out you can take your vehicle to:

have the failed defects fixed
a pre-arranged MOT test appointment

In both cases, your vehicle still needs to meet the minimum standards of roadworthiness at all times or you can be fined.

You can be fined up to £2,500, be banned from driving and get 3 penalty points for driving a vehicle in a dangerous condition.


This is very ambiguous Shocked Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Post #501446 Fri Jul 22 2016 12:31pm
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