HI,

I bought a 2007 RRS 2.7TDV6 with 65,000 miles just before christmas and thank god i got a 3 month warranty !

after owning the car for around 6 weeks and covering about 500 miles i was driving near home and the HDC not available light flashed up, I pulled straight over and and switched off the engine , waited a minute and tried to start it up again... when i tried to start it up the engine would turn over but sounded very fast and would not fire up .

I called the RAC and they could not start the car , they had no idea what was wrong with it and recovered the car back to the garage i bought it from , i work away from home and they have now had the car for 5 weeks tring to fix it.

I was told last week that the oil pump had failed and that it had been replaced but for some reason the car was still not running properly , so they have stripped the engine down and brought a land rover specialist in to take a look , they have now told me the " shells" on the engine are scored and need to be replaced which they have ordered. they said it should take around a week to ten days to get everythig back together and running again as long as there are no more problems.

Im posting on here as i know very little about these cars and want to know how much damaged could have been caused by the oil pump failure , and what questions should i be asking the garage ?

I can extend the 3 month warranty to 1 year for a extra 250.00 which i will be doing as soon a si get home .

any advice is greatly appreciated.

many thanks

Dave

Welcome.

Was it a trade or private sale? If the former, it is the dealer's responsibility anyway, even without a warranty.

Without lubrication, just about any part of the engine itself could fail/be damaged, and the turbo also. Generally speaking, "scoring" is from contaminants in the oil, while loss of oil pressure produces what's called "wiping" - you might want to clarify with them but I suspect it's just their choice of words.  Visiting from DISCO3.CO.UK
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Auto HSE Zambezi Silver

Hi,

I part exchanged my old car against it...one of my biggest worries is that the garage i bought the car from also have a second garage where they carry out MOT,s and minor repairs and are not a RR specialist , probably why it took them 5 weeks to actually find out what was wrong with the car and had to call a Land rover specialist in.

I just hope they manage to fix the problem correctly and i have no further issues whith the car.

Failed oil pump = scrap engine.

well the garage I bought it from is attempting to repair it .... and as i said im going to extend the warranty anyway , I suppose time will tell.

Read your warranty documents VERY carefully, and find out the max claim limit

IMHO, I would not be accepting an engine repair on a TDV6. I would only accept a new/recon engine direct from JLR, or a similar mile 2nd hand engine, removed from a running car. If neither of these solutions were an option, I'd be handing the car back...

Yeah - if oil pump failed and bearing )shells) were damaged , there is likely to be a lot of other damage too. You need to find a similar mileage engine from a wreck or a professionally rebuilt engine.

I appreciate all your comments guys , but me demandning a new / reconditioned engine and actually getting one are 2 different things.

If it was your own car and had to spend your own money would you just write the engine off ? they have had a Land rover technician out to inspect the engine and are confident that it should fix the problem. If not i will push for a reconditioned engine. they garage wouldnt be in Buisness long if they threw a new engine at ever car that broke down.

at present i think the best i can do is contact my finance company and make them aware of thr issue, extend the warranty and make sure I have enough cover , and make sure that the work that is currently being carried out is guaranteed for at least 12 months.

also , the wear on the shells could this not be down to general wear ? and totally coincidental ? as soon as the warning lights flashed up i pulled over and was only doing 10mph ....

davidsherry33l wrote:

? they have had a Land rover technician out to inspect the engine and are confident that it should fix the problem. If not i will push for a reconditioned engine. they garage wouldnt be in Buisness long if they threw a new engine at ever car that broke down

Hi,

To be honest im not exactly sure whats going on with the car , I work abroard and have not seen the car since it got took away on a transporter 5 weeks ago , and everytime i call i get a different sotry, and i dont know enough about the car to know if they are bullshitting me or not ! i have no confidence in what they are telling me or how they are going to repair the car. My heads up my hoop with it to be honest !!

In all honesty, id have lost the plot after 5 weeks, and told them to shove the car

Time to get the finance co involved I think

Oil pump failure is about as serious as it gets. You would be very lucky to be able to rebuild the engine even if the bits were available.

You're being taken for a mug if there has been no concrete solution after 5 weeks. Get a refund ,you'll regret it if you don't.

I think the reason they have had it so long is that they have had a lot of other work on at the moment and as they have gave me a car to use ...fixing my car has not been a priority.

I have been in contact with the finance company to see exactly where i stand legally etc.. and to see if the have any advice .

I have started emailing the garage i bought it from tryign to get as much evidence as possible incase things get messy.

Does anyone know of an Independant Land Rover specialist in the North East that i could get to Inspect my car and complie a report once the " so called rapair " has been completed ??

Once the car has been repaired what do you expect any independent 'expert' to see; a visual "lift the hood' might show a nice clean engine so what?

Any real inspection would have to dismantle the engine and measure components to establish whether the wear was or was not abnormal. This is obviously totally impractical, costly and open to argument.

Without lubricant under pressure and engine rotating at a few thousand rpm will have damage to most if not all bearing surfaces. It may also have contaminated oil-ways that would need to be flushed clean to avoid damage to any new components.

Getting an engine rebuilt is a skilled undertaking and most mechanics will not be patient or experienced and downstream reliability will be compromised.

You've paid for a reliable car so I fail to see why you would not insist that the engine is either replaced with a Land Rover unit or you money is refunded.

I used to own a dealership and believe me the first loss is the best loss; modern engines are precision assembled and its very hard to duplicate those conditions in the field.