Hi Chaps and Chapesses

It's probably been asked before, but with the recent bad press about the number of RRS (and Evoques) being
stolen in London (admittedly from Kensington) is it worth buying one? It's for my gf to drive to work now that she's pregnant (she's got a SLK at the moment) - so I don't want to see it get lifted and her having to get the bus!

I'm on the cusp of buying one (went for a test drive at the weekend) but the only thing that's stopping me, is the chance that it may get pinched in London.

I have off-street parking, but that's hardly going to deter anyone as it's literally off street where my front garden would be.

What's the best security add-on to get? I've heard various forums talking about thatcham 5 and 6 (with 5 being higher security), and with something called ADR? What are your experiences? Someone near us has an overfinch version and he seems to just use a steering wheel lock. Chap at the showroom mentioned an add on chip to the key? Not sure what this is referring to, and can't find anything online.

Is a RRS more likely to get nicked that a Mercedes ML (which is my other option)?

Possibly stupid questions....but thanks in advance for any answers.
p.s. I'm going to go for HSE Dynamic (other bits and pieces have yet to be decided).

thanks

Yes a lot have been stolen but they are a minority compared to the amount that are out there . A disc lock seems to be a good idea . As far as an ml is concerned --- no contest !

Merc ML


I havent done much research on aftermarket security yet. Not even sure if the SRV will have a tracker yet, dealer doesnt seem to have much info.

I did hear, not sure how true it is, but 9 out of 10 insurance companies were not insuring RR's in the London area due to the thefts. Maybe something to consider?

There was a guy on here selling some sort of 'wire in' module that made it impossible to scan the security settings. Maybe search 'security' and see what comes up, if not, im sure someone else will have some sound advice.

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Not really a minority.....by all accounts, about 1 in 5 of the new RRS and Evoques that had been sold and delivered to Central London addresses during 2013 were nicked in the first 6 months of 2014.....about 300 out of about 1,500.

That said, several electronic updates and a Thatcham Cat 5 system makes it harder for them. If I had your sort of off street parking, I would also spend £500 to £1,000 getting a security post installed behind where the car is parked.....that would give you peace of mind.

Speaking from some experience and research.....I had mine knicked in August last year from my own off street parking in Central London. Didn't stop me getting another.....but now has Cat 5 system and steering wheel lock. FYI, cat 5 doesn't make it any more difficult to steal......it just seems to give you a better chance of getting it back if it is stolen.....or at least that is what the insurance companies seem to think.

The latest security update from LR will stop the recent spate of thieves who break in and then code their own keys.
It has stopped access to certain parts of the system. For example if they used a frequency jammer to stop you locking the car, then they would open it later and use the above process. The LR security update will stop that.

there are other additional security alarms you can get that will further reduce the chance of theft. Bodsys Brake Bible
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To be honest, if you live in London, stay away and save the hassle.

Salmon&permit wrote:

Not really a minority.....by all accounts, about 1 in 5 of the new RRS and Evoques that had been sold and delivered to Central London addresses during 2013 were nicked in the first 6 months of 2014.....about 300 out of about 1,500.

That said, several electronic updates and a Thatcham Cat 5 system makes it harder for them. If I had your sort of off street parking, I would also spend £500 to £1,000 getting a security post installed behind where the car is parked.....that would give you peace of mind.

Speaking from some experience and research.....I had mine knicked in August last year from my own off street parking in Central London. Didn't stop me getting another.....but now has Cat 5 system and steering wheel lock. FYI, cat 5 doesn't make it any more difficult to steal......it just seems to give you a better chance of getting it back if it is stolen.....or at least that is what the insurance companies seem to think.

Thanks for info. Which Cat 5 system did you get and who installed?
Agree cat 5 is still reactive - but hopefully will allow someone to track the .
Good point on the security post - will have to talk to the landlord...

Andi wrote:

To be honest, if you live in London, stay away and save the hassle.

Bodsy wrote:

The latest security update from LR will stop the recent spate of thieves who break in and then code their own keys.
It has stopped access to certain parts of the system. For example if they used a frequency jammer to stop you locking the car, then they would open it later and use the above process. The LR security update will stop that.

there are other additional security alarms you can get that will further reduce the chance of theft.

362bkr wrote:

Yes a lot have been stolen but they are a minority compared to the amount that are out there . A disc lock seems to be a good idea . As far as an ml is concerned --- no contest !

sally wrote:

Merc ML


I havent done much research on aftermarket security yet. Not even sure if the SRV will have a tracker yet, dealer doesnt seem to have much info.

I did hear, not sure how true it is, but 9 out of 10 insurance companies were not insuring RR's in the London area due to the thefts. Maybe something to consider?

There was a guy on here selling some sort of 'wire in' module that made it impossible to scan the security settings. Maybe search 'security' and see what comes up, if not, im sure someone else will have some sound advice.

Good luck

You could try one of these options...........




 2023 P440e SE Dynamic on order -cancelled

2022 HSE Dynamic P400e

2017 Discovery 3.0 HSE Silicon Silver Nimbus interior and a few extra toys SOLD

2013 HSE Black, Orkney Grey, Ebony Seats and Ivory Interior SOLD

2006 HSE

Plus a few other cars inbetween!

Buying a crap colour should reduce the risk of theft. L405 P400e Autobiography (MY2020)... Silicon Silver / Espresso
RRS TDV6 HSE Lux (MY2011)... Nara Bronze / Arabica - now gone!

Good point

dragon007 wrote:

sally wrote:

Merc ML


I havent done much research on aftermarket security yet. Not even sure if the SRV will have a tracker yet, dealer doesnt seem to have much info.

I did hear, not sure how true it is, but 9 out of 10 insurance companies were not insuring RR's in the London area due to the thefts. Maybe something to consider?

There was a guy on here selling some sort of 'wire in' module that made it impossible to scan the security settings. Maybe search 'security' and see what comes up, if not, im sure someone else will have some sound advice.

Good luck

thanks for the info.
Yes I'd read the 9/10 of issue with the insurance companies. Using a Cat 5 kit seems to give them the warm and fuzzies though.
Out of interest, what has the wait time for yours been? A few months?

Spoke to the dealer last weekend and they said that it would likely be ready by May - although this may be salesman speak for anytime after May.....