I am certainly not trying to push the OP into doing something he may later regret and I suspect that most of us can see both sides of the argument here but I know what I have been like through my life when I really wanted something, you are prepared to make sacrifices and compromises in other areas to get what you want. Did I need a 3.0 V6 Ford Capri when I was 25 years old? No I didn't, did I have fun with it? Hell yes. It cost me a fortune in head skims, engine rebuilds, insurance and petrol but it was fantastic to drive - in a straight line.

So, as always, it comes down to the priorities of the OP. I know he only asked for our opinion and I suspect that we have not helped much other than to either add to his guilt if he goes ahead or reassure him to wait a few years if he doesn't. I am keen to know how this pans out though and I suspect there will be more messages on this befpore the end of this weekend.

So do you clear 2k a month or before deductions?

His actual out goings might be very low as he lives in a house with a small mortgage!?

His wife/gf could earn the same or more than him!?

So know the whole income and outgoings would be better or just how much spare you have per month.

I'm going to touch wood before I say this but my tdv8 has been great in the 9 months I've had it, battery failed so my mate at LR sorted my out one for the price of a takeaway, rear anti roll bar bushes failed which me and a mate changed in 40 mins and £32 in genuine LR parts then the diesel leak from the engine, I stripped the left side of the engine bay to find the return rail o ring had failed which cost me less than a £1 in LR genuine parts and maybe 2 hours of my time.

So if you are prepared to get your hands dirty it can help on repair costs but also I got a looked after forum members car, I also have a mate who works for LR and can twirl a spanner in style.

I think when I was 23 I had a 4.4 v8 full fat

Thanks for your honest advice guys i appreciate you telling me what's what.

I was looking for honesty no matter how brutal it is. For me I through my income was alot but must not be compared to some of your guys.

It vareys daz from sometimes over sometimes a tad under depending if I fancy the overtime or not but there's always work there for example if a hefty bill came in for her.

As for mortgage we was lucky with are mortgage due to my partner coming into a huge iinheritance fund so cut are mortgage in HALF! All in all it comes in around a thousand a month split that 2 ways so it's pretty easy for me and my partner. Her earning a bit less than me £500 a month each is nice for us and that's overpaying sometimes so it works out £400 a month after a build up of cash.

Pretty sweet for a 3bed detached with a garage just missing the range to put in it!

PEACHY wrote:

Ok let's go the other way - the Sport is a poorly built British failure - over priced - over rated - costs a fortune to run & always breaks down - you won't sleep at night worrying about the next repair bill - don't buy one get a 14 plate Ford Focus instead with your cash

Or wait till you've retired & buy one then -

Is that sour enough - its definitely not sugar coated

Well said, get your priorities in the correct order, buy the Sport, then think about how you can afford to run it, i.e. Dump the wife etc etc  In Spain - 2018 F Pace - Frightened away from the Sports due to crank failures
Gone - A couple of RRS, A couple of Disco's. However thinking of another Sport.

Do it!
You're a long time dead & it's not as bonkers as an Ariel Atom as a daily runabout.

Tommo22 wrote:

Thanks for your honest advice guys i appreciate you telling me what's what.

I was looking for honesty no matter how brutal it is. For me I through my income was alot but must not be compared to some of your guys.

It vareys daz from sometimes over sometimes a tad under depending if I fancy the overtime or not but there's always work there for example if a hefty bill came in for her.

As for mortgage we was lucky with are mortgage due to my partner coming into a huge iinheritance fund so cut are mortgage in HALF! All in all it comes in around a thousand a month split that 2 ways so it's pretty easy for me and my partner. Her earning a bit less than me £500 a month each is nice for us and that's overpaying sometimes so it works out £400 a month after a build up of cash.

Pretty sweet for a 3bed detached with a garage just missing the range to put in it!

My mate only clears 1500 a month but his dad bought him a 200k house, his dad is a billionaire with his own jet so my mate can afford a sport and he clears less than you. Therefore it's unfair to say you cant afford because of you wage.

Rant over back to topic.

I'd say if you have a comfort buffer so when/if the thing breaks then go for it. Whats the worst case it breaks and the repair bill is 5k them buy a banger to run till you can afford it.

Some guys on here have gardens full of money trees but there are ones that don't too.

Have a look into getting a warranty (aftermarket) then that will help with the repairs.

IMO go buy one

RRS Daz wrote:

I'd say if you have a comfort buffer so when/if the thing breaks then go for it. Whats the worst case it breaks and the repair bill is 5k them buy a banger to run till you can afford it.

Do it! As long as you don't have to borrow money, enjoy yourself now. In my early 20's I was making £50k pa and I spent it all on having fun - cars, holidays, women (not paid for I might add!). I don't regret it. Sure I would be mortgage free now (I'm 3 but you can always earn more money which I have done and you will too, but you can't buy your 20's back and I have have great memories of my adventures back then.

So from you guys advice it seems a no brainer! Get one and enjoy it ( until it breaks) !

I know it's abit personal and some people don't like to share with others about there earnings but people who own and drive one of these what is your average monthly income...

I through when I landed this job I would be fine and was buzzing to start saving for a RRS but it seems otherwise.

What do you guys think of renting one for a weekend or a week?

Tommo22 wrote:

I know it's abit personal and some people don't like to share with others about there earnings but people who own and drive one of these what is your average monthly income...

You are not really going to get that out of people, Tommo. And it won't be entirely black and white if you did.

Many blokes here will be self employed, or have a company. As such, fuel and repairs will be paid by the business and won't form part of their salary. Most will be able to get the VAT back. Those expenses, while still coming out of their bank, wont be thought of as a personal expense as such.

Self employed blokes may take out a small official salary that doesn't attract much tax, but they may utilise expenses or other methods to pay certain bills that can loosely be classed as a business expense.

Added to which, many blokes have other bits of income, maybe rental income or dividends or such. So many wont know how much they actually 'earn' a month like a bloke on a salary might.

For many here, 'spend' won't necessarily relate to 'earn' if that makes sense. Or put another way, if my car breaks and it costs £500 to fix, the business would pay that and it would come from the same pot of money we use to pay the electricity bills, buy stock, pay for advertising and everything else.

That pot is replenished daily by sales. As long as there are more sales then spends, we are golden.

Your situation as a younger chap than most here differs. You earn £x per month as an employee and that is relatively fixed, save overtime and extra work. So you pay your bills and what is left is your disposable income. If from that disposable income you can afford to put a couple of grand away for unexpected repair bills over a few months, and still pay the tax, insurance, fuel and servicing, you can afford to run it.

If you can do that, and you have the cash put by to buy one already without borrowing, then go for it.

But take the advice of the guys here and spend a few weeks reading the old topics. Know what goes wrong with these cars, know what to look for, know what questions to ask. Have the cambelts been done for example? If not, know what that costs. Think about mileage and history; don't rush, buy the best car you can for the money you want to spend.

The forum here is a superb resource. Think of it like a savings account: You will take from it when you need to. In six months when you have your car, another guy like you will come along and you will be in a position to give him good advice.

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i.e. Dump the wife etc etc

Best bit of advice so far.....will save you a fortune in the long run

Everyone on here is giving you great advice! But I'm going to have to stop reading it cause I'm 23 get paid the same as you £2k a month and iv bought a RRS, iv kept my old car for when it breaks but I figured I only have me and my house to worry about I might aswell get my dream car now, so if anything goes wrong that's my problem and don't have to worry about children or anything, but saying that I don't drink or smoke and would happily not leave the house or eat for a month to pay something for my car haha!!!

Also life is short, and I think you should just regret the things that you do, and not the things that you don't.
Will you be able to buy another car and look at it on the driveway knowing it could have been an RR and still love it the same? That's what made my mind up, I don't mind spending money on my RRS but if it was something else I would resent giving it fuel!

Thanks Stuart I never looked at it that way!

Your right there neon I often have discussions with my partner about the pros and cons of the RRS ( I think she's getting bord of it now)!

It's like I say to her I could buy a ecoflex car and be better on fuel and all that but she answers my question everytime! BUT ITS NOT WHAT YOU WANT!

I could have a nice economical car but still stare at a range rover when it drives past me!

You have to scratch the itch when you get it!!!

Tommo22 wrote:

I could have a nice economical car but still stare at a range rover when it drives past me!

There's always a bigger fish

Nice 458 at the top of my road..... one day maybe  Gone - MY12 SDV6, Orkney Grey, Ivory interior, Privacy Glass