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P1ca



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Turobs failed and need replacin, help rrs 3.6tdv8 2010

Hi, ive been told at least one turbo has failed and garage (Berkshire Land Rover)recomends changing both, they have quoted me £4000 for all inclusive parts and labour with 12 months parts n labour warranty!! They saying they fitting recon turbos but the body has to come off and its a big job,Is this reasonable price or can someone recomend me somewere cheaper and quality work carried out? If yes pls pm me details thanks.

Range rover sport (10) plate 3.6 tdv8 with only 64k miles. Out of warranty from march 2013:-(

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1JBS



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Mate of mine recently had his done and it was £5,500.00 so your price sounds fair Thumbs Up

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Re: Turobs failed and need replacin, help rrs 3.6tdv8 2010

P1ca wrote:
Hi, ive been told at least one turbo has failed and garage (Berkshire Land Rover)recomends changing both, they have quoted me £4000 for all inclusive parts and labour with 12 months parts n labour warranty!! They saying they fitting recon turbos but the body has to come off and its a big job,Is this reasonable price or can someone recomend me somewere cheaper and quality work carried out? If yes pls pm me details thanks.

Range rover sport (10) plate 3.6 tdv8 with only 64k miles. Out of warranty from march 2013:-(


Before you commit to anything, get in touch with Pete at LR Customer Service and see if he can help. As it's not long out of warranty and assuming you've had a LR service history, then you may be alble to get a contribution......or better Thumbs Up

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Paddi



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Hi and welcome to the forum but sorry to hear your troubles,

That's good advice from BC and should be your first resort.

A new turbo is in the region of £1,000 depending on supplier and fitting is a body off job which is about 10+ hours labour at £100 an hour in the over-priced South East; add on any other parts and materials needed and you are not going to be far short of the £4,000 quoted if you have both turbos changed. The 12 months guarantee is essential.

Your post says 'recon' turbos but its probably not worth the risk - I'd expect brand new at that price. There are too many cowboys out there reconditioning parts badly.

Turbos can fail in several different ways and determining the nature of failure in your case would influence the decision to replace both or just one.

Turbo experts say is is absolutely essential to find the cause of turbo failure because if the turbo is simply replaced the same thing will happen again.

If it is just the electronic box integrated into the turbo then maybe just change that one?

If the turbo variable geometry vanes are just completely clogged up with deposits from combustion maybe just change that one and/or have both cleaned?

If the turbo has suffered catastrophic failure due to oil starvation causing blown oil seals and failed bearings and then break up of the turbo fan blades definitely go for two new turbos and make sure the oil feed is checked plus clean out or replace the intercooler.

Are you the owner from new? What sort of use has the car had? Lots of short runs or a good daily commute? Has it always been serviced annually? What oil has been used? Have you been using premium diesel of supermarket fuel?

I can't recommend another garage but someone else in your Berkshire area might be able to help? Hope you get it sorted and do please keep the forum updated on how it goes. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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Im sure ive seen it done without the body off, if they really wanted to. Ive definitely seen it done on a disco, without body off. Although this is normal practice (removing the body) Mike

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P1ca



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Paddi wrote:
Hi and welcome to the forum but sorry to hear your troubles,

That's good advice from BC and should be your first resort.

A new turbo is in the region of £1,000 depending on supplier and fitting is a body off job which is about 10+ hours labour at £100 an hour in the over-priced South East; add on any other parts and materials needed and you are not going to be far short of the £4,000 quoted if you have both turbos changed. The 12 months guarantee is essential.

Your post says 'recon' turbos but its probably not worth the risk - I'd expect brand new at that price. There are too many cowboys out there reconditioning parts badly.

Turbos can fail in several different ways and determining the nature of failure in your case would influence the decision to replace both or just one.

Turbo experts say is is absolutely essential to find the cause of turbo failure because if the turbo is simply replaced the same thing will happen again.

If it is just the electronic box integrated into the turbo then maybe just change that one?

If the turbo variable geometry vanes are just completely clogged up with deposits from combustion maybe just change that one and/or have both cleaned?

If the turbo has suffered catastrophic failure due to oil starvation causing blown oil seals and failed bearings and then break up of the turbo fan blades definitely go for two new turbos and make sure the oil feed is checked plus clean out or replace the intercooler.

Are you the owner from new? What sort of use has the car had? Lots of short runs or a good daily commute? Has it always been serviced annually? What oil has been used? Have you been using premium diesel of supermarket fuel?

I can't recommend another garage but someone else in your Berkshire area might be able to help? Hope you get it sorted and do please keep the forum updated on how it goes.




Car at berkshire land rover atm, bought two recon turbos from a very known company for £1200 inc vat, BLR said hourly rate is £85 per hour so hopely wont go more then £2500 including fitting n other bits that might be needed along the way, fingers crossed no surprises after turbos fitted😳

Will keep you guys updated

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P1ca



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Just been on the phone to stealers berkshire land rover and now they telling me that two injectors have gone and quotted me a price £1150 for two. They are telling me thats whats caused the car to shake, but they told me at begining that the cause for the car shaking its turbos, now they telling me i need two injectors as they caused turbos to blow, so two turbos and two injectors so far. I really have a feeling am being taken for a ride here, someone i know told me its almost impossible that a injector can blow turbos, any input its welcomed:-(

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Never heard of an injector causing damage to a turbo. The injectors are downstream of the turbo and should have no influence. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

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If it is only a misfire, I would be tempted to replace the injectors first
A little extra smoke is normal, with the above fault

If it is smokey, check the top turbo pipes for splits. Very common issue, pipes are £30 each

If, after the injectors and hoses are OK, and it is still smokey, then it could very well be turbo failure, however, I would be going elsewhere for a second opinion Thumbs Up

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be carful I had a tdv8 which when my turbo broke I had to change a con rod too.

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P1ca



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Disco_Mikey wrote:
If it is only a misfire, I would be tempted to replace the injectors first
A little extra smoke is normal, with the above fault

If it is smokey, check the top turbo pipes for splits. Very common issue, pipes are £30 each

If, after the injectors and hoses are OK, and it is still smokey, then it could very well be turbo failure, however, I would be going elsewhere for a second opinion Thumbs Up


I have no choice but to go what the stealers are saying and that is.... Two new turbos and two new injectors. I personally think it was just injectors but like i said no choice:-( Sad

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I think I'd be asking to see the turbos that are stripped off to see how difference in the cleanliness of their inlets and outlets.

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P1ca



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I saw the turbos and one of them was full of oil and other one was alright but still changing both, i also saw two injectors that had got ruated so they replaced them too, so lets hope this is end of this chapter lol

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Paddi



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Ruated? What was that supposed to spell?

Turbo full of oil suggests the oil fed to the turbo under pressure wasn't being drained/pumped back to the sump owing to a blockage so pressure built up until the oil seals failed. From there oil can get into the intercooler and possibly the cylinders which can lead to 'hydraulic lock' and hence Carmadd's warning post about bent con rod.

I hope the garage is checking the oil feeds and cleaning out the intercooler.

Best of luck. 2008 MY Java Black TDV8 HSE

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P1ca



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Rusted lol i asked them
To check and drain all pipes n they said it wont need doing but i will insist on them doing so.

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