http://youtu.be/mdHHeXap63g

Video of me pulling a D3 out of a sticky situation.

I'd just driven through the same spot and had the RRS briefly stuck - TC light flashing and going nowhere (I think this might have been one of those situations where DSC wasn't helping). Just calmed everything down and drove out ok. The D3 wasn't able to. Not sure why as the LRE instructor was talking her through what to do.

Anyway, she generously shared the clip so I'm doing the same. Easy pull as I was by then on a track - the RRS barely noticed the D3 on the rope. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

Ain't much tension on that rope!!!

The ropes were described as being "quite stretchy" by the LRE chaps - I think the Disco just needed that initial bit of help to get it rolling and then basically drove out. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

RRSTDV8 wrote:

Easy pull.......

Sorry couldn't resist.....

Lol, thanks for that. Of course I'd have gotten through that if you hadn't trashed the track

Only teasing, thanks for towing me out!!

Clare D3, not a baby Disco!

That wet grass looks treacherous....  FF 4.4 V8 Soooo looking forward to this bad boy
Ex 2006 RRS SC - garbage
Ex 2016 135i M Sport - dream car
Ex 2003 RS6 Avant - piece of cr*p
Ex 2014 320d X Drive, M Sport Touring - ok I guess
Ex 2007 RRS TDV8 - bloody loved it
EX 2007 FL2 XS - not so bad

Hi Clare

Yeah, sorry for stirring up the mud. The irony is that if the guy in the D4 hadn't been sorting his kids out, he would have gone before me and it might have been me getting stuck!

Chatting to the lead instructor at the start, he'd put the Freelander and the Evoque at the front of the group specifically because they're lighter and don't tend to dig the ground quite so much as the heavier RRS/Discos do. I think we saw the truth of that. As the guy said at the end, the D3/RRS is nearly a tonne heavier than the FL/Evoque on tyres that aren't that much wider.

I'm still surprised that such an innocuous bit of muddy grass had such an effect. I think what happened, with me anyway, is that the vehicle slid sideways on the slight cross slope, the DSC kicked in which killed the power. The front and rear wheels then just sat on the edges of the slight ditch and spun up when the power came back in. Stopping and then gently tickling the power allowed it to grip. I accept that I probably messed the ground enough for your tyres to then struggle.

It was a fun afternoon though although I found, when I got home, that I'd managed to pull off one of the soft plastic lips below the nose of my Sport. Not sure where I did it but I'm thinking I might just take the other one off rather than replace the lost one and risk doing the same thing again in the future. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

To be honest - and no offence - it was probably driver error, or at least a low level of driver skill and appropriate technology. if the dsc killed the power, why was it on.

My problem with all the technology (and i rate it really really highly) if you didnt cut your teeth off road or extreme off roading in earlier models with 0 aids then the skill arent there...you can get a long way with skill and appropriate use of tools.

I remember having an argument with a guy, when marshalling an off road course, because he refused to believe that his discovery could be in high range on an off road course...he also wouldnt believe that going backwards and using reverse is a valid way to tackle a problem...i enjoyed him getting stuck

That said wet grass is an arse. Mike

2014 Facelift Discovery

No offense taken . The whole point of the day is to get a feel for your vehicle off tarmac. It's just a bit of fun. And definitely intended for those with no experience - people like me.

I took SWMBO to Gaydon for a "taster" session in an RRS and the instructor their said that the FFRR, Disco and RRS are all great off road but rubbish for learning off road driving becuase the systems cover so many issues without the driver needing to do too much. He said that anyone wanting to learn how to off road should use the Defender because it just levers and pedals. No fancy gubbins. 2012 SDV6 - it's missing a couple of cylinders
2008 TDV8 - it was a labour of love and is much missed

RRSTDV8 wrote:

No offense taken . The whole point of the day is to get a feel for your vehicle off tarmac. It's just a bit of fun. And definitely intended for those with no experience - people like me.

I took SWMBO to Gaydon for a "taster" session in an RRS and the instructor their said that the FFRR, Disco and RRS are all great off road but rubbish for learning off road driving becuase the systems cover so many issues without the driver needing to do too much. He said that anyone wanting to learn how to off road should use the Defender because it just levers and pedals. No fancy gubbins.