that doesn't make sense? the calculation is really easy! owing to a design flaw the wheels are *really* easy to steal (less than 90 seconds if you know what you doing). Every so often we get a post on here "my wheel has been stolen". It seems to happen anywhere and everywhere with some anecdotal evidence of spikes in Essex .

I would suggest it's slightly more likely to happen than having your tank drilled and drained and more likely to happen than having a wheel or two stolen off the actual car - so still fairly low probability but a measurable risk. We use locking wheel nuts even though they aren't infallible but because they reduce the risk of an opportunist thief coming along and they stop a crime that happens less frequently than this.

Therefore £65 vs £200+ for a new wheel/winch is a fairly straight forward bet to make. Like, a really straight forward bet to make. And a one-off cost over the course of ownership.

Hence my lack of understanding why people wouldn't do it. But then I do like my http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

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haha to paraphrase wiki:

"An example of this would be the conflict between wanting to smoke and knowing that smoking is unhealthy; a person may try to change their feelings about the odds that they will actually suffer the consequences, or they might add the consonant element that the smoking is worth short term benefits"

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"An example of this would be the conflict between not wanting to buy a RLD protector and knowing that there is a chance the spare wheel will be stolen; a person may try to change their feelings about the odds that they will actually suffer the consequences of a stolen wheel, or they might add the consonant element that not buying the RLD protector is worth the short term benefits"

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I would not get one as I dont think you can access spare (to steal) with the AB bumper

I used to smoke, I gave up because it was unhealthy

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There's also a chance some knife waving head case is going to kick my door down in the night demanding the whole car but I don't employ a minder on the off chance this might happen.....

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exactly. Or that a meteorite might hit your house. Or that your brain might stop sending the signal to your lungs and you stop breathing and die.

I wonder how the chances rate on a scale vs the spare being nicked? Cognitive dissonance rule 101 "a person may try to change their feelings about the odds that they will actually suffer the consequences of a stolen wheel"  ============
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Just to add my two pennith.....

Yes I can afford to buy a replacement wheel.

Due to where I park, garage at night and private car park at work, it is highly unlikely the spare will get nicked.

If I really wanted to save weight etc. I'd take the spare off and leave it at home.

However, on the off chance that I do need a spare wheel (or rather LR assist do ) one dark cold night my £65 will mean it will probably be where I want it when I want it.

£65 to insure against a £200 loss (and where your RRS is RRSBoy is like Fort Knox); then I'd say that proportionally its a high premium to pay.

James

I'm still not getting one

And don't you come pinching mine just to say I told you so

rrsboy wrote:

Nik wrote:

There's also a chance some knife waving head case is going to kick my door down in the night d emanding the whole car but I don't employ a minder on the off chance this might happen.....

exactly. Or that a meteorite might hit your house. Or that your brain might stop sending the signal to your lungs and you stop breathing and die.

I wonder how the chances rate on a scale vs the spare being nicked? Cognitive dissonance rule 101 "a person may try to change their feelings about the odds that they will actually suffer the consequences of a stolen wheel"

@ JF, yes it can be just as easy to get one off with the A/B bumper, just bend your knees and bend your back a little bit and take a look better still ask miss jf to do it and take a photo for you so that you can have a look

James @ Lookers Park Royal wrote:

£65 to insure against a £200 loss....its a high premium to pay.

James

On the face of it yes But then you have to factor in the hassle factor

Time for LR assist to change a wheel say half an hour (at leisure on a bad day).

Time for LR assist to recover you and then get the wheel/tyre replaced/repaired

James LPR is right the usual parking spot is v high security - the problem is when out and about parked all over the place  ============
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quiet a few spares on ebay for a couple of hundred quid, so good money for a few hrs cable cutting

I wonder how many spare wheels have been nicked and the owner did not notice unless well after the event? It's not something I check every time i return to the vehicle and it's not immediately obvious it's there.

i suspect the first time most people notice is when they get a flat....  ============
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