I'm looking for a bit of advise, as I'm having a bit of bad look with my 2007 RRS which is out of warrenty.
I was pulling away from a junction, when it lost power, so I navigated it to the grass and turned it off for a minute. I then tried to start it again, it was lumpy at idle and died after 15-20 seconds. I got out to find oil pouring out from under, but I couldn't see where from as it was dark but I knew it wasn't the sump. I called recovery that night, and got it lifted.

My mechanic who has previous experience working in a landrover dealer has told me that the right had side turbo is gone, and the engine is seized. He expects the repair bill to reach €15K (apporx £12.7 sterling).

I can't find any previous threads of engine failures, so I'd find it unlikely that the bearings would be rung in such a short time, the oil level was perfect prior to the failure, and I pulled straight in once it began to lose power.

Can anyone advise me of where I can pick up a quality TDV8 engine, and a turbo for reasonable money? Or is there anyone from Ireland who can point me towards a specialists?


Thanks!

edit: sorry to be making this my first post.

Hi and welcome, sorry to hear of your misfortune i'm not sure if this is any good to you, nothing to do with me though.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RANGE-ROVER-3-6-...256c499920
Hope you get it sorted soon

Hi

I am sorry to hear of your issues.

How many miles had the car done before the failure??

I have seen adverts for TDV8 supply and fit for about 4K sterling.

Obviously if you have a turbo that has scrapped itself there is that cost along with intercoolers and oil coolers and pipe work as this would need to be done if debris from the offending turbo has distributed itself within the system.This may also be a belt and braces approach as you wouldnt want to possibly risk debris that was still lurking afterwards to re enter the engine.

A turbo can fail in many ways but to scrap an engine it would have to either disintergrate and enter the engine (combustion chambers ) or generate an oil leak ( a big one) which would cause oil loss and subsequently oil pressure which would result in engine internals not having sufficent lubrication.

Did you have an illuminated oil pressure light before engine stopped??

I can possibly get some details for you but I havent personally used any so I cant speak for their quality/ability.

Hopefully somebody may have some first hand experience of someone that may be able to help.

Failing that sourcing an engine with warranty from a broken vehicle would allow you to use your mechanic to fit??

I really hope its not as bad as first thought and you get it sorted .

John

@ Ady
2k doesn't seem too bad, but I'd like some sort of warranty. I'll have to check it out tomorrow, could be just what I need.

@ c76jon
It had only just turned 68k miles, so its not a case that there was excessive mileage, and it has been regularly serviced. The oil light didn't illuminate at any stage, so I was shocked to hear that it was seized, but I guess low pressure would cause this, before the light would get a chance to come on?
I have seen them adverts on ebay to supply and fit for 4k, but as you said, I'd like to hear some first hand info of these services.
As for finding a broken vehicle, I can't find any in Ireland!! They pretty rare when your looking for them!!

If you can find one on UK mainland would there be much if any import cost other than logistics?

John

No there would be no import cost at all, If I find a good engine from a breakers I'd have no problem getting it shipped etc. The only problem is finding one!

Can anyone recommend any good independent specialist in the UK or Ireland?
Or would I be as well to take the plunge, and get it to the main stealer?

Cws breakers, Douglas valley, motorhog... I'm sure of those 3 one would have an engine and don't forget the 3.6tdv8 is hated with the full fat RR as well

In fact there is a breaker on eBay at the minute but I think it's been rolled so I wouldn't risk the engine from a rolled one...

I'll have a mosey for you later on any other place I can't think of. Have you tried north of the border?? FFRR Owner, SSRR engine destroyer!(*2) & Creator of SSRR

Thanks Kp, ya I've tried up north, but nothing available, and nobody who wishes to look at it except the main dealers

I'm going taking it to another mechanic I know for a second opinion, he has done some work on RRS before, but mainly does m sport beemers, and other german performance cars.
If he isn't overly interested in doing the work, I'll send it across the pond. I've got some prices for transport, and its not too bad, but I'm still worried about where to send it.

Check as much as you can online about the places you shortlist and then ask them if they can provide some customers or online forums where they have been reviewed for their work that you can talk to so as to guage real world experience.

A decent LR specialist over here should be able to handle the job but may cost a bit more than those ebay type prices but if they are well known across here it gives you some backup and when you come to collect it i'd suggest flying over on a friday early morning to pick it up and then stay local to where ever its been repaired until monday morn and then work your way back to holyhead for the short trip across the sea

Gives you a good reason to treat the other half and nippers and if anything happens in those few days you can get it back to them asap as well

12month warranties and stuff wont be much use to you as its too far to mess about with it unless they will cover recovery charges as well! FFRR Owner, SSRR engine destroyer!(*2) & Creator of SSRR

Hi, I would ask the garage to check the chains linking the cam shafts as
last year had a similar scenario on MY tdv6 2007, but when it went to the garage
a very good garage I might add they found that the chain had snapped and contaminated
the engine, turbo and other items with chain links as the chain disintegrated.
It did cost LR £10.500 in total to install a new engine as the chain had no part number and was supposed to last the life of the engine so all at the cost under premature expired part, If ADY is still watching he knows how to link to subject, but if you do a search on engine failure should come up.
Good luck with the problem which ever way you tackle it.
Cheers
Tim

The TDV6 engines use a cambelt system though and no chains IIRC.

The FFRR TD6 engine uses a timin chain and possibly some other LR units but i dont know exactly which ones

Still its rare for a timing chain to go unless the idler/tensioner pulleys wear early and it begins to rattle about  FFRR Owner, SSRR engine destroyer!(*2) & Creator of SSRR

Hi the chain is the short one linking the 2 camshafts in
each block that went on mine and caused the same damage
Created sam problem mentioned, nothing to do with timing belt or chain or string
Thanks

timcom0 wrote:

Hi, I would ask the garage to check the chains linking the cam shafts as
last year had a similar scenario on MY tdv6 2007, but when it went to the garage
a very good garage I might add they found that the chain had snapped and contaminated
the engine, turbo and other items with chain links as the chain disintegrated.
It did cost LR £10.500 in total to install a new engine as the chain had no part number and was supposed to last the life of the engine so all at the cost under premature expired part, If ADY is still watching he knows how to link to subject, but if you do a search on engine failure should come up.
Good luck with the problem which ever way you tackle it.
Cheers
Tim

Here you are tim
http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic20832.html?highlight=