Endjin wrote:

Got my Wintrac 4's fitted yesterday and they are superb!
Only slight concern reading the above posts is that they are 255/50/R20
/109 V.
Can anyone confirm this is correct? Surely it must be..... They were supplied &
fitted by a main dealer. Appreciate any feedback.

The size they have fitted is in the 2010 handbook in winter tyres section but appears to be an error highlighted in updated advice posted on this site by James. LR have not advised owners direct. The wheel size/pressure label on the vehicle door should be followed at all times

Having searched t'internet for information regarding winter tyres, sizes, ratings, warranty implications, insurance, etc.....

I now believe you can fit 255/50 R19 107 H or 275/40 R20 106 V winter tyres during cold weather only provided they are LR wheels - The rest of the year you can have the same size wheels/tyres but they must be Y rated tyres

Any variation from this must be approved by your insurance company and LR

This means I am unable to find all season/M+S tyres for my 20's with a Y rating and have to buy 19's and fit winter tyres for swapping around or all season Y rated

In the event of an accident investigation you could be prosecuted for not meeting the above requirements

Useful links

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safet...he-uk.html

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic19985....tyres+list

http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic19979.html?highlight=heard Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Who says 4x4 don't need winter tyres

&feature=player_embedded Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Thanks for the feedback muddywheels, this is what I feared.
Guess I'll be calling Bryan at Town & County on Monday! At least it's
entirely the dealers fault, so I should have no issues, as they ordered & fitted
the tyres. 2013 Discovery HSE Luxury - 3.0 SDV6 - Santorini Black
2013 Evoque 5 Door Pure Tech SD4 - Orkney Grey with Panoramic Roof (Mrs E's new baby)

GONE - RRS - 3.0 TDV6 HSE - Santorini (2010)
GONE - RRS - 2.7 TDV6 HSE - Java Black (2007)
GONE - Porsche Boxster S - 3.2 - Black

I think if you read the following from the AA then you have nothing to worry about and this was also confirmed and covered by the BBC news last weekend:

Insurance implications - winter tyres

If you fit winter or all-season tyres in place of your standard 'summer' tyres then there should be no need to inform your insurer – even though the speed index might be lower than the standard tyre specified by the car maker.

The lower speed index is still likely to exceed all national speed limits by a considerable margin – with the exception of some German autobahns – and is not checked as part of the passenger car MOT test.

If you follow the standard European practice of keeping two sets of wheels, one fitted with winter tyres and one with summer tyres, then there should be no need to tell your insurer so long as the winter tyres are fitted to steel or alloy wheels of the correct specification.

'Correct specification' in this context means that the wheel size – diameter, width and offset – conforms to the vehicle manufacturer's specifications. Check the vehicle handbook for details of wheel/tyre size combinations suitable for your car model and refer to the car manufacturer or dealer for further advice.

The AA has nevertheless heard reports of some insurers increasing premiums or remarkably even refusing cover if winter tyres are fitted. As a result we recommend talking to your insurer if you are considering fitting winter tyres.

According to the Association of British Insurers (ABI)


If anything winter tyres should reduce the accident risk and, by implication, drivers who fit them are likely to be more risk-conscious too.

The major motor insurers have all confirmed that they would not class fitting winter tyres as a material modification and it would not impact on the premium. The one condition would be that they would expect such tyres to be fitted by reputable garage/dealer, in accordance with the motor manufacturer's specifications.

Some said that they would not require the policyholder to tell the insurer these tyres had been fitted, but the ABI's advice is to play safe and tell your insurer anyway.

I will be using the above information in my own dealings with LRCS