My dealer proposes
WINTRAC 4 XTREME
by Vredestein as best tyres for RR Sport 2010.
What do you think ? 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

cannot really see the point in winter tyres on a 4x4,you have four wheel drive so save your money. Gone,,TDV8 arctic frost,black leather,colour coded handles,rear entertainment,sunroof.
1980 Rolls Royce,shadow 2 in white.
Gone 07/57 TDV8 santorino,black leather.chrome handle's/mirror's.
Gone 02/52 FFRR vogue.

You may be right Andy, but with my Goodyear in snow mode when braking even at low speed (under 35 mph), it's a bit of an ice rink.
Around here we have a LOT of stupid criminal drivers who change direction without warning even under blizzard, prompting sudden braking. 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

V8 andy wrote:

cannot really see the point in winter tyres on a 4x4,you have four wheel drive so save your money.

This might change your mind

http://tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/Video-Do-...-a-4x4.htm Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day!

Would not drive mine on Conti's or on my 22" with Yoko's, but on the Wintrac Xtremes on 19" its awesome 20" low profile summer tyres in winter hmm no thanks been there tried it not again  2014 5.0SC AB

Gone 5.0 SC

Risk of damaging it ? 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

quantz wrote:

Risk of damaging it ?

Tboner wrote:

quantz wrote:

Risk of damaging it ?

LOL.. no just like to actually get where i want to go at a reasonable pace

And complete.  2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

quantz wrote:

My dealer proposes
WINTRAC 4 XTREME
by Vredestein as best tyres for RR Sport 2010.
What do you think ?

Perfect choice. I'm running these on 19" rims and the performance in the recent snow and ice has been brilliant This is the first time I've ever bothered with winter tyres, but it certainly won't be the last. The difference is very noticable. 14.5MY SDV6 HSE Dynamic Indus silver/lunar/ebony 20" wheels, InControl, full-size spare, electric tow bar, adaptive xenons, adaptive cruise control, auto main beam assist. Gone: TDV8 HSE; Zermatt silver/ebony, 19" off road alloys, active diff, particle filter, tow pack (it was fun) BMW 730D SE (great car, sadly missed). Ford Focus RS mk2, Ultimate green, lux pack 2, bluetooth. The start of my mid-life crisis.
IN THE GARAGE: BMW i8 - the mid-life crisis continues and it's great fun.

I agree ^^^^^^^^

Im running wintracs on 19" rims on my TDV8

Traction was OK last winter on 20" Pirellis however braking is orders of magnitude better on winter rubber

4WD doesnt help you when you jump on the brakes

With 20" wheels, which Vredestein to choose ? 2010 TDV6 3.0 HSE Santorini Black Tan Full Leather

wow yes 100% winter tyre's did have pirelli 20" summer tyre's, plenty slippage here in the frozen north,
tried to get a hold of vredestine you guys in the south must have them all,
had to go for a set of pirelli snow and ice. but whatever the cost its worth it £40k car on a set of summer (slicks) tyre's,
i can just hear the insurance people in the future 'and did you have the correct tyre's on for the conditions?'
well worth it.. a womans rule of thumb:if it has tyres or testicles your going to have trouble with it

carbostar wrote:

wow yes 100% winter tyre's did have pirelli 20" summer tyre's, plenty slippage here in the frozen north,
tried to get a hold of vredestine you guys in the south must have them all,
had to go for a set of pirelli snow and ice. but whatever the cost its worth it £40k car on a set of summer (slicks) tyre's,
i can just hear the insurance people in the future 'and did you have the correct tyre's on for the conditions?'
well worth it..

And the Secretary of State for Transport doesn't know any better either. They're all muppets http://www.tyresafe.org/news-and-events/de...re-advice/ 14.5MY SDV6 HSE Dynamic Indus silver/lunar/ebony 20" wheels, InControl, full-size spare, electric tow bar, adaptive xenons, adaptive cruise control, auto main beam assist. Gone: TDV8 HSE; Zermatt silver/ebony, 19" off road alloys, active diff, particle filter, tow pack (it was fun) BMW 730D SE (great car, sadly missed). Ford Focus RS mk2, Ultimate green, lux pack 2, bluetooth. The start of my mid-life crisis.
IN THE GARAGE: BMW i8 - the mid-life crisis continues and it's great fun.

yes Old stager your on the ball, I did know about Austria its only a matter of time eec straight bananas and all that

think it only a matter of time for the insurance 'darlings' to get an angle on it, mind i have noticed the rest of the world slipping and sliding about me, its only a matter of time before I'm by a taxi driver in a reasonably priced octavia. a womans rule of thumb:if it has tyres or testicles your going to have trouble with it