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Leo Member Since: 17 Sep 2007 Location: Nomad Posts: 554 |
Go for it - it's well worth the price and can't be added later on. |
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Sun Nov 08 2009 5:24pm |
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2nd Rower Member Since: 12 Nov 2007 Location: Upside Down Posts: 1382 |
Agreed, wish I had it on my car. |
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Sun Nov 08 2009 8:26pm |
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lespes Member Since: 16 Jun 2008 Location: Channel Islands Posts: 1052 |
Waste of money in my book.
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Mon Nov 09 2009 12:30am |
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ASH555 Member Since: 02 Dec 2006 Location: East Yorkshire Posts: 750 |
Personally the 2 RRS's i have owned haven't had it fitted and its not been missed, but if you can afford it and think you may need it then buy it MY10 3.0 TDV6 HSE, Zermatt Silver, 20" Diamond Turned Alloys, Factory Privacy Glass, Premium Leather, Contrast Stiching, Side Steps, Etc
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Mon Nov 09 2009 6:59am |
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Very Annoyed Site Moderator Member Since: 23 Aug 2005 Location: bat-wielding monkey-spanking tough-love zero-tolerance Euro-sceptic moderator - So just watch it! Posts: 19459 |
The RRS doesn't really need it imho. When I've been off road I've only had the standard rear diff and my RRS got through places where cars with the rear diff got stuck and vice versa. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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Mon Nov 09 2009 9:56am |
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Smarticus Member Since: 26 May 2005 Location: Northumberland Posts: 939 |
I have never quite understood what the rear locking diff achieves when combined with the electronic traction control (ETC - that is standard on a RRS).
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Mon Nov 09 2009 9:58pm |
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2nd Rower Member Since: 12 Nov 2007 Location: Upside Down Posts: 1382 |
Firstly let me say I'm not an expert in this space...
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Mon Nov 09 2009 10:14pm |
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Smarticus Member Since: 26 May 2005 Location: Northumberland Posts: 939 |
I can well imagine that scenario - electronic aids to traction can be a bit tricky as they can be a tad too "clever" for their own good - whereas mechanical aids are more basic - but do exactly what they are told to do.
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Mon Nov 09 2009 10:45pm |
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Pelyma Member Since: 28 Sep 2005 Location: Sussex Posts: 1497 |
The TC some slippage before it works the ediff doesn't. Cars equipped with it do make easier progress, but don't seem to be able to go any further. The skill of the driver is still the biggest advantage. Porsche Cayenne S Diesel 66 Plate |
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Mon Nov 09 2009 10:53pm |
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The doc Member Since: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 1173 |
Get it |
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Tue Nov 10 2009 7:03am |
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Smarticus Member Since: 26 May 2005 Location: Northumberland Posts: 939 |
Pelyma - I am just speculating here (because I have never witnessed an ediff in action), but as it is an electronically controlled diff lock and not a mechanical locking mechanism - does the ediff not also need to "sense" that the diff is slipping before it locks up. Just like the ETC has to sense slippage on the wheel before it applies the brakes. As a result the ediff will still have a delay before it acts (whereas a mechanically locked diff wont allow any slippage at all). I would imagine that ETC is probably programmed to cut in after a longer delay (more slippage) than the ediff. I also realise how even a very short delay in locking the diff or transfering power to another wheel could cause a momentary loss of forward motion which, on a steep ascent or in deep mud or sand, could be enough to stop the vehicle in a place where no aids to traction will regain forward motion. In that case if the ediff fires in quicker than ETC then it would give a better chance of maintaining forward motion. However the ETC delay is programmable, so maybe different TR settings reduce the ETC de;ay to minimise the risk of this effect ? RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini Disco 4 TDv6 HSE Ipanema Defender 90, 200tdi CSW |
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Tue Nov 10 2009 8:18am |
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Leo Member Since: 17 Sep 2007 Location: Nomad Posts: 554 |
The rear diff lock makes a huge difference in some situations. ETC relies on braking spinning wheels to send drive to the wheel with traction. The diff lock, which engages in fractions of a second sends drive to both rear wheels without the brakes coming into play.
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Tue Nov 10 2009 8:38am |
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diamond Member Since: 09 Feb 2009 Location: Dusseldorf, Germany Posts: 217 |
My experience with ediff is that it works much more smoothly and without any spinning especially in difficult situations like a cllimb in uneven rocky place for example.
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Tue Nov 10 2009 9:06am |
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Jimmy_75000 Member Since: 06 Oct 2006 Location: London, UK Posts: 1146 |
Silly one but on the 4x4 screen, if you have a rear dif, it showns by having two locks as oppose to one lock only, right? Range Rover Vogue ‘17 TDV6
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Mon Nov 30 2009 1:08pm |
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