However, it is possible to compensate for the road camber but still keep within LR's tolerance. Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

rrsjo wrote:

Ok. The first thing to do is to find a straight, quiet and flat country road. Drive down the left hand side of the road and see if it pulls towards the kerb, which presumably it will. Preferably retrace your 'steps' before driving down the right hand side of the same stretch of road (so you are on the wrong side of the road this time) and obviously when nothing is coming in the opposite direction. If the car now pulls to the right then the chances are there is nothing wrong and it is the slight camber that causes the problem. If it pulls to the left, or even drives straight, then the alignment is wrong.

Thanks - I knew how to do that! and this is what led me to assume it was car related and not camber/surface of the road.

FYI - Steering rack was replaced today and alas the rattle/reverboration remains as before. The dealer has been great in the diligent effort to try and investigate and resolve it, but ( and in their words) having replaced pretty much everything around the suspected area including the steering column and rack they are now going to ask Land Rover Australia to look at the car.

They also did a 4 wheel alignment today and guess what the car still seems to have a strong pull to the left!

2nd Rower wrote:

They also did a 4 wheel alignment today and guess whatperception the car still seems to have a strong pull to the left!

2nd Rower wrote:

rrsjo wrote:

Ok. The first thing to do is to find a straight, quiet and flat country road. Drive down the left hand side of the road and see if it pulls towards the kerb, which presumably it will. Preferably retrace your 'steps' before driving down the right hand side of the same stretch of road (so you are on the wrong side of the road this time) and obviously when nothing is coming in the opposite direction. If the car now pulls to the right then the chances are there is nothing wrong and it is the slight camber that causes the problem. If it pulls to the left, or even drives straight, then the alignment is wrong.

Thanks - I knew how to do that! and this is what led me to assume it was car related and not camber/surface of the road.

FYI - Steering rack was replaced today and alas the rattle/reverboration remains as before. The dealer has been great in the diligent effort to try and investigate and resolve it, but ( and in their words) having replaced pretty much everything around the suspected area including the steering column and rack they are now going to ask Land Rover Australia to look at the car.

They also did a 4 wheel alignment today and guess what the car still seems to have a strong pull to the left!

I have mentioned this before, but it's worth repeating.

The old 4 WD Porsche remedy (only carry out if the tyres are not marked on their side wall as for use in a single direction of rotation only) is to swop the front wheels from side to side. I believe this helps due to the combination of a slight difference in circumference of tyres and the diff itself.

Anyway, for whatever reason it is worth a try and has worked for me in the past. Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

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Hi Red Rover,

I'm trying to think when I got the Grabbers, and I believe they are coming up to about 1 year old and about 20km's life out of them with still plenty of tread left! The grabber AT2's were recommended to me by the dealer when I asked what all terrain tyres to get on the RRS. I do not think the pull is being caused by the tyres at all, but cannot be 100% on that. I Would think that the dealer (or the bridgestone tyre place they use) would have suggested so if they thought that was the case.

Land Rover Assist (aka RACV) diagnosed the problem as steering column related when I called them out back in Feb. When I took it to the dealer, they just said it was being caused by the All Terrain tyres. I didn't accept this and through persistance they now accept it's a fault but can't seem to diagnose the root cause problem depsite changing the steering column and rack.

So the car is now to be looked at by Land Rover Australia on Wed. The car has been in somewhere above 10 times to try and diagnose and have the problem fixed. The dealer at one point even put a set of new wheels and tyres (normal road tyres) and found the the problem still existed - thus ruling out the tyres or tyre wear for this issue. Not sure of the revs, but my rattle/vibration seems to consistently occur at 60kh/h or thereabouts.

To be honest I'm getting a little frustrated as it's driving 'like a dog' with the pull to the left, nevermind the premature wear this is causing to my tyres over the last 6 months of having the problem!

Thanks
2R

2nd Rower wrote:

Hi Red Rover,

I'm trying to think when I got the Grabbers, and I believe they are coming up to about 1 year old and about 20km's life out of them with still plenty of tread left! The grabber AT2's were recommended to me by the dealer when I asked what all terrain tyres to get on the RRS. I do not think the pull is being caused by the tyres at all, but cannot be 100% on that. I Would think that the dealer (or the bridgestone tyre place they use) would have suggested so if they thought that was the case.

Land Rover Assist (aka RACV) diagnosed the problem as steering column related when I called them out back in Feb. When I took it to the dealer, they just said it was being caused by the All Terrain tyres. I didn't accept this and through persistance they now accept it's a fault but can't seem to diagnose the root cause problem depsite changing the steering column and rack.

So the car is now to be looked at by Land Rover Australia on Wed. The car has been in somewhere above 10 times to try and diagnose and have the problem fixed. The dealer at one point even put a set of new wheels and tyres (normal road tyres) and found the the problem still existed - thus ruling out the tyres or tyre wear for this issue. Not sure of the revs, but my rattle/vibration seems to consistently occur at 60kh/h or thereabouts.

To be honest I'm getting a little frustrated as it's driving 'like a dog' with the pull to the left, nevermind the premature wear this is causing to my tyres over the last 6 months of having the problem!

Thanks
2R

Just learned of a good point from JKP regarding taking off wheels, changing for a new set, not liking them so return to set 1 and the car pulls to one side or the other............ when an hour before the steering had been fine.
If you have taken your wheels off recently (all of them) and then put them on again make sure that you label the wheels and make sure that you put the same one back where it was before otherwise you end up with a tyre that was say worn on the shoulder on the front offside back on the rear nearside etc and the difference in wear on the tyres can be enough to make the steering pull to one side or the other - strange but true! 2020 Pangea Green 1st Edition D240 New Defender 110 is here and loving it
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Thanks Tim - I'm taking a punt by assuming the dealer has followed this

2nd Rower wrote:

So the car is now to be looked at by Land Rover Australia on Wed.

Now scheduled for Friday as LRA couldn't do Wed!

rrsjo wrote:

I have mentioned this before, but it's worth repeating.

The old 4 WD Porsche remedy (only carry out if the tyres are not marked on their side wall as for use in a single direction of rotation only) is to swop the front wheels from side to side. I believe this helps due to the combination of a slight difference in circumference of tyres and the diff itself.

Anyway, for whatever reason it is worth a try and has worked for me in the past.

I still suggest you try this.  Gone - 2008 TDV8, Stornoway Grey, ebony, zabrano trim, TV, Tasmods, mudflaps.

Thanks RRSJO - appreciate the input.... At this stage and 6 or so months after having asked them to align the wheels I would have hoped that such a simple resolution would have been tried by the boffins at my dealer and the Bridgestone tyre centre!

I'm a little over it now and just want the two matters fixed... Waiting with baited breath for teh expert from Land Rover to have a drive on Friday!

2nd

Try Lance Dixon, they have their own tyre department now and as a main stealer they should know what they are doing Gone - 2008 Stornoway Grey RRS 2.7 TDV6
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So the LRA Rep had a drive with me, he asked for the the car to be realigned/tracked and tyres rotated again after I left the dealer. My perception from collecting the car is it is still pulling over and above what would be causded by any camber..

They are suggesting maybe the tyres so I have asked them to categorically prove this.