Then Josh it's not directed at you. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
2009 Alaska TDV8 - Gone and much missed.



WINNER - 2009 �Idler Of The Year� Award
Runner Up - 2009 �Just Doing What It�s Designed To Do� Award


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But was it

VA...you can't throw rocks at the glass house and not expect any back. TDV6 - gone
TDV8 - gone
Audi Q5 3.0 Tdi Sline wef 6/11/10

Josh keep throwing I've replaced the standard windows with bullet proof ones!

If I posted a list of people who have or haven't donated any money I'm sure things would really start off - 'I've donated this much and you have only donated that much!' Do you honestly think a list would be a wise thing to post? If you do I'm afraid you're out of luck because it wont happen. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
2009 Alaska TDV8 - Gone and much missed.



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Runner Up - 2009 �Just Doing What It�s Designed To Do� Award


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Is that not what some of our MP's said

Yes and I forgot to say you lot are going to pay for my new windows!  2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
2009 Alaska TDV8 - Gone and much missed.



WINNER - 2009 �Idler Of The Year� Award
Runner Up - 2009 �Just Doing What It�s Designed To Do� Award


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Not until you have paid for my bricks

I'll put it on my expenses at the end of the month........

Tax payers will pay for it this weekend....  TDV6 - gone
TDV8 - gone
Audi Q5 3.0 Tdi Sline wef 6/11/10

Tax Payers? Who they? I'm a contractor  Two lives - lived one

This season, oi be mostly toasting my left leg in the 90 while the missus drives the D3

Martin have you thought about putting in place an "over 18 section" with a subscription to access. it seems the next if not the most common theme on the site after the RRS


ill get my coat  Another Pommie Bar Steward down under

MY20 Defender 110 SE P400 Eiger/Ebony
MY10 3.0 RRS TDv6 Fuji/Ebony/Anigre

Very Annoyed wrote:

I'm ashamed of many of the site members - they spend hours on here and contribute financially nothing. We know who you are.
to those who have donated in the past. We know who you are too.

At the risk of receiving a ban (and I hope not) I felt compelled to offer my view on all of the above which I have read through.

Firstly - I totally agree with a fee for selling items - ebay do it so why not here. Its sensible and a great way to support the site.

I have been a member of the site for around 5 months and in that time, if I remember correctly, I have made two payments as a donation - one for buying an item and one just for the and giggles on here. In addition I have also provided a referral for a potential site sponsor which I have not been kept informed on progress with but I assume as I have not seen any additional mention of them on here the deal was not closed to a successful fruition.

As with a number of others on here what I am struggling with is the running costs. I have designed, hosted and run many web sites and forums in many other capacities as my former profession was as a new media manager for a well known collection of household name web sites. I know that a significfant amount of bandwidth, hosting space and a free php forum can be obtained at less than the £100 stated but even for a large site triple the costs would suffice. If I can help reduce running costs in anyway I would be happy to help if I can.

A business model that relies upon the ad hoc contributions of the site members to support the site will not work long term. Subscription sites are rarely successful. I know - I set up a trade motor dealer web site with a paid for stock listing service many years ago only to find out that autotrader were offering this free 6 months later and my whole business model fell apart. At the time this was www.autohunter.co.uk but we later rebranded to www.fish4cars.co.uk.

The only real model of choice is to push page impressions through the roof and to then charge advertising fee's accordingly.

Despite the fact I have made contributions in the past the whip cracking to make a "donation" has actually had an adverse affect on my likelihood to make a future contribution. I made my contribution because I enjoy the site and wanted to give something back. But as a former web professional I, like many others on here, struggle to understand why the running costs are so exorbitantly high.

I'm not trying to be "high and mighty" and most definitely I do not look down on anyone else. I just don't grasp the shaming approach to motivate people to contribute.

I may have missed the point and if I have, I apologise. I am disappointed to see such a discussion on an enjoyable community site.

Martin - if you are struggling to maintain the costs of this site you must do what is in your best interests. Both my donations and my personal thanks for a great web site are testament enough to the fantastic job you have done in providing a wonderful focal point for us RRS owners. I hope the site does not have to be closed down but if so, thank you for all the fun and helpful advice. I hope, as a regular contributor of, at the very least, a wry sense of humour, I have done my bit to make the forum a fun place to be.

Of course - I will never add the value of SP  WINNER - 2009 Best Newcomer Award
'09 TDV6 XS Stornaway Grey

'06 BMW 730 D SE (Gone)
'08 A4 TDi SLine Avant (Gone)
Large pack of Flake Cakes (Gone)
6 pack of Guiness (Gone)

R. I . P Sexy Pauly

Wozz wrote:

one for buying an item and one just for the and giggles on here.

What a great line  L322 Big Daddy SUPERCHARGED 5.0 Autobiography - Here & Now!

5 series for the miles

RRS S/C factory built HST - Gone

45 others have been and gone!

As a new member to the forum, i find this site not only very informative and helpful, but also a bloody good laugh, and as for that i donated a(albeit) small donation a few weeks ago. Whilst i continue to enjoy the site, i will make further donations through out the year

After reading through the thread, i would welcome a Platinum members section, a optional membership, where those said members ,have acess to a few new areas. Perhaps a membership card and a window sticker, thrown in the pot with it to.

This site has my full support, and it would be a great shame if it was no longer, so keep up the great work guys!

Regards

Paul .....................................................................
09 RRS TDV8 HSE 20"STORMERS and Colour Coded everything!!!!

Life is for living, not sitting back and waiting for rainey days!

Having read the 6 pages, I have to say I was a bit shocked at some posts, I think Wozz sums up very much how I feel and I too agree that charging for advertising/sale is OK, but charging a subription would most definitely turn me and many other away from this great site.

If many left I would think that the main core of people answering questions would be reduced and also the risk of an "elitist group" would be all that would be left (I am not saying there is an elitist group now).

I dont believ forcing people to give donations or trying to make people feel guilty is the correct route, maybe a nice thread should have been started..


Martin, thank you for this site. RRS TDV8 HSE 2007- JAVA Black/Black interior,
UK BMW M3 CSL SB- now sold
1968 Innocenti mini