Another SW wrote:

Oh, and by the way, Another SW has nothing whatsoever to do with my name, but there may be one or two people who will know exactly what it stands for and how true it has turned out to be...

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Another SW wrote:

[...] especially as I am in a position professionally to be of far more use to the members than any of you are ever likely to be to me. [...]

I was trying to stay out of this post but feel to state my opinion. Please can someone explain what is this all about?

I thought that this forum is to help RRS owners to get insights from other, more experienced owners. And not a place to show off about someone's "importance". I have imagined that influential people are established enough and don't have the need to wave hands with their believed importance...

Martin would it not be wiser to make this site a private forum?

This has to be one of the most ridiculous over reactions of all time. Martin has introduced a charge for selling items, not really a major issue as sellers are using this site to their benefit and a small charge is not in my view unreasonable. I stated that if members had coughed up donations this situation would not have occurred. Most strange.  2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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One of you fella's must have RRS parts or associated 'bits' that can be donated to be sold on the site. That seems to be a great way of generating forum interest as well as some money.

Maybe CHPR have some bits in their parts bins that would be useful, if not to RRSPORT, then feel free to sell the relevant interest bits on Disco3 as it always goes down well there  Bodsys Brake Bible
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VA, my comment was ment in positive manner. Sorry if I have expressed myself not right.
Personally, I do not have issue paying for posting charges and am even willing to pay a memeber fee. This page has been a great help to me and saved me a lot of money. Do not see a reason why not make it a private RRS CLUB...
That was all...

Coko - I wasn't directing anything at you, my comment was generic. 2005 Zambezi TDV6 - Gone but not forgotten
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As a forum sponsor, i find the fee's charged to be fair and proportionate to other forums i sponsor based on the level of business and 'support' i get from the forum and it's members.

I think charging for posting items for sale is fair game, considering the level of hits the website gets and specific items which will be of interest to members/guests on the site. I for one, have sold a number of high value cars via this forum including an Audi RS4 Saloon back in 2006! Have met some really good friends through the site, so i want it continue for a long time yet!

I think a lot of people are over reacting on this issue. If you don't like the charges, simple.. don't post anything for sale! Everything else is free on here and you can mooch all you like and take whatever you want from the forum. Some people use this forum for a chat room, others just to pop in/out for info on their cars.. each to their own!

Jees. Martin's site, Martin's decision, if you don't like it, go............let's be happy that this site is still operational and not defunct.

If you sell something, you contribute via the charges, if you appreciate the banter and entertainment, trickle a little money love via the Donations page.

Lets face it, with some that have come and gone on here, you would pay big money to see such delights at the circus

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@ VA

I cant believe i even have to clarify this to a bunch of grown men.

Over and over again you guys are missing the point every (sensible) person in this thread is getting at.

WHY ARE THE COSTS SO HIGH?!

Here is some basic maths. Lets not even consider the so generous seeming D3 brigade. RRSPORT:

10 sponsors on the sponsors link at the top. Paying £120+ each a year (i suspect they are paying more than £10 a month since ive seen atleast one complain about the payments but its a simple low figure to work with )

= £1200

+ i donated like 50+ last year after CHPR helped me out.
+ say even if everyone else only donated a combined 100+.

= £1350+ ...and by the way your going on your plenty short ?

You only reply to people who are blindly just donating or say they have no problem with donating so dont ask the question. I have no problem with Martin making money off it. Just dont go saying its for running costs.

I for one wont be donating again. Very dissapointed with the attitude (not to mention i remember not receiving any kind of thanks/confirmation emails).

with lines like..

Martin wrote:

If you're wealthy enough to own and run an RRS then I've no doubt you're wealthy enough to run a web site as a hobby.

Very Annoyed wrote:

At the end of the day this is Martin's site, his baby and if he decides to pull the plug because it's not worth his time and effort many of us will regret it.

Very Annoyed wrote:

mercuryl - I stand by what I say and I'm still ashamed of certain members on this forum, maybe I should have qualified exactly who the post was aimed at originally but if you read my later post I think it makes it clear. Personally I think ASW spat his dummy out and completely overreacted.

Very Annoyed wrote:

I'm ashamed of many of the site members - they spend hours on here and contribute financially nothing. We know who you are.
to those who have donated in the past. We know who you are too.

NoDo$h wrote:

We all get more out of these forums than we do from magazines etc, and we don't prod the publishers for a breakdown of their printing costs.

I MISSED ALL THIS !!!!!!


Martin - i am with you and as usual i will pay my donation personally in cash next time i see you

Cause i think this site f******** rocks commercial or not  
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OK i have read with interets and must say that i have found this site a great help in good and bad times and the banter is great, on reflection maybe i could donate more than i have and that will change moving forward (but i am a Yorkie .)

Martin you stated that you are open to ideas, whilst i was a member of the Lexus owners forum http://www.lexusownersclub.co.uk/forum/ you have free area and gold member status http://www.goldmembers.co.uk/ , cost if memory served me correct at £25 per year, for this you received your own gold members forum, members card, window sticker and dealers signed up to provide discount on service and spares, i made my money back in spades on parts and service in the 3 years i was a member, have you considered something similar here?

Keep up the good work

Very Annoyed wrote:

I'm ashamed of many of the site members - they spend hours on here and contribute financially nothing. We know who you are.
to those who have donated in the past. We know who you are too.

Hmmm......I've stayed out of this as I don't want to be involved in any more discussions where someone feels they are higher and mightier than me ( You know who you are ) ..........

But VA who exactly is this statement directed at

As a very poor RRS owner I will in due course make a donation comparable to a magazine subscription. Which I have done before. TDV6 - gone
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