Was driving slightly above the speed limit to work this morning. And is it heavily raining there was a minimal film of water on the raod surface at numerous ocasions. The conties (standard 20") seemed not to have enough grip... On the FFRR, which I have beed driving slightly longer, I have never experienced this before...
Any tyre recommendations for RRS?

I didnt find an issue with them in the wet tbh. Make sure your tyre pressures are correct. WINNER - 2008 Best All New Photograph
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Thanks mate...
Will do that tonight

Mine are worn a bit more than 50% with the sides scrubbed right down.
- I'm surprised at how easily they aquaplane.....

Conti's are a bit like F1 super softs.... great in the dry. Maybe the Pirelli is our Intermediate tyre! 2022 P440e AB

Thanks Paulo... You at least proved that I am not paranoid Will have to get them changed soon than...
How about runflats? Does anyone have any experience with them on RRS?

I've got goodyears on and find them excellent in all conditions - never had an issue in the wet (even in heavy rain) and i must confess to driving "passionately" only issue i've found with them is they tend to wear slightly more unevenly than the conti's, had the alignment checked, balancing checked and pressures checked regularly but it just seems to be one of those quirks ! 2005 TDV6 HSE Zermatt Silver Ebony Interior Sunroof, RSE, Side Steps
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I really hated the Conti's (good for nothing IMHO and likely to leave you like a beached whale on any slightly slippy offroad surface). The Pirelli Scorpions seem to be doing a pretty good job so far (albeit with a rather weak sidewall !). RRS TDv8 HSE Rimini
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Thanks guys for your input...

Guys, is it safe to change my fronts for Pirelli's leaving Conti's on the back? 2022 P440e AB

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I've got goodyears on and find them excellent in all conditions - never had an issue in the wet (even in heavy rain)

I'm very happy with my PIRELLI PZEROs and PA, yes you can just change the fronts to Pirelli and retain the Contis at the back.  Malaysia Boleh!
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I'm very happy with my PIRELLI PZEROs and PA, yes you can just change the fronts to Pirelli and retain the Contis at the back.

Well...Bobby, first post I'm going to have to disagree with you firmly on this guidance. It's always a bad idea to mix tires as suggested above, this will make the back end of the vehicle behave differently than the front due to different tread patterns, and all of the other characteristics of the tires. You are after all driving a reasonably pricey SUV, why would you shirk on spending a few extra hundred quid/dollars/euros on getting the right set of tires.

Any tire shop that would even recommend such a thing is doing you a disservice.  PJPR
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No worries on the disagreement! After all its for the benefit of the forum in general and how else are we going to learn something new?!

Over here its permissible to change two tyres to a different brand as long as they are of the same size and type. Also they must be on the same axle.

Ideally it would be preferable to change to the right set but I was just responding to PA's inquiry. I am not sure if its his intention to save a couple of hundred quids but...  Malaysia Boleh!
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Fair enough - always enjoy the good natured give and take here! Perhaps of greater concern was the original question on safety.

"Guys, is it safe to change my fronts for Pirelli's leaving Conti's on the back?"

Given that the contis are fairly poor in the wet weather, and the pirellis are apparently much better, although I haven't compared them side by side, it would seem that this would be an even unsafer combination.

Here are a few extracts for reading material on mixing/matching:

As a general rule, tires should not be mixed on any vehicle unless specified as acceptable by the tire or vehicle manufacturer. Drivers should avoid mixing tires with different tread patterns, internal constructions or sizes, and use identical tires on all of their vehicle's wheel positions in order to maintain the best control and stability. Additionally, drivers should never mix winter tires with all-season/summer tires, or mix run-flat tires with non-run-flat tires.

This is one of the reasons that it is desirable to have all of a vehicle's tires wear out at the same time. It's confirmation that the vehicle design, driving conditions and maintenance practices worked in unison to equalize tire wear and performance. It also lets drivers know they got their money's worth out of the current tires and allows them to choose a set of replacements that will either maintain the Original Equipment (O.E.) tires' capabilities, or help tune the vehicle's qualities to even better suit their needs.

Unfortunately wearing out all tires at the same time isn't always possible. Sometimes vehicle design, the use of differently sized tires on front and rear axles, insufficient maintenance and/or driving conditions conspire to prevent it from happening.

If a vehicle's tires don't all wear out at the same time, drivers are typically forced to decide whether they should purchase a new set of tires (forfeiting the worth of the two tires not fully worn out) or just a pair of replacements. While purchasing a new set of tires is best because it will maintain the handling balance engineered into the vehicle while restoring poor weather traction, it is also more expensive. And while purchasing a pair of replacement tires reduces immediate expense, it brings with it the options of choosing exact, equivalent or alternative tires.

Of the three, the best choice is to select the exact tire currently on the vehicle. This assures that the tire's physical dimensions, internal construction, tread design and tread compound are equal to the tires being replaced.

The second option is to choose equivalent tires from the same tire performance category that share the same speed rating, handling and traction characteristics of the original tires. While this isn't as desirable as selecting the exact tire currently on the vehicle, it can become necessary when the original tires are no longer available.

The third option, choosing alternative tires, should only be considered as a temporary solution in an emergency situation. Using alternative tires from different tire performance categories, with alternate sizes or different speed ratings can unbalance the vehicle's handling in poor weather or when pushed to the limit in an emergency.

Because tires play such an important role in every vehicle's comfort qualities and handling capabilities, it is always best to drive on tires that are identical in every detail, including tire brand, model, size and remaining tread depth. Anything else involves some type of compromise.
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Good info, PJPRO01, but personally I agree with what Bobby has been told - as long as you maintain the same type tyres across axles I was never led to believe there was any problem. There's also the practical aspect. Many cars wear the tyres on the driving wheels before the other two need replacing. I'd probably say that the large majority of folks don't replace all four if they don't need to, especially if they're paying for them themselves  

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